Ice Magick, help finding information Options

First off, I' not sure if theis is the right prace to put this post but it is my best guess. I have been reading on the Ive Magick Wars and would like more informatin on the art of Ice Magick. Not the element Ice as alot of post are mistakingly pointed to. I a facinated with alot of the claims of the Ice Lord and would like to delve Deeper into the research. All Information is greatly appreciated, Thank You (IMG:style_emoticons/default/snstgs7.gif)

I'll be the first to admit I've never heard of him. Is he some sort of Norse figure? Though I can't shake the feeling of a video game. Still this is the chaos magic forum you could create an egregore or servitor if he doesn't exist. It would take work but it can be done. Good luck in your research.
gmcbroom

The Ice War was one of the more significant division points between Chaos Magicians in England and Germany. On one side there was Peter Carroll and the IOT, and on the other was a guy named Helmut. This was in the mid 1990's, about the same time Weiser and Lewellyn were in heavy competition, the former releasing things like Crowley reprints and the latter with Modern Magick and witchcraft books. It was an important time for occultism as it brought in a huge number of new people.

The bottom line on the Ice War is that it showed that Leadership is often effective while Authority is often a bane. It was essentially a popularity contest, the actual "magical combat" involved was minimal, and both sects were reduced dramatically. Both still exist and would probably assert their growth, but an honest appraisal shows more of a trend toward independent magicians working alone or in small unaffiliated clusters. I'm not entirely certain what happened to Helmut, but I've heard he's still around. As for Peter Carroll, he's doing a fair job at marketing physics as the new occultism, but his Arcanorium College is mostly trite New Age regurgitation.

I have a shiny signed copy of Frater U.D's Ice Magick, which he gave to me when he was in England last year as part of a thank you gift for looking after him during his stay. Very nice and a highlight of my collection...unfortunately it is in German, which I don't speak! An English translation will be forthcoming eventually though, so you will have to wait until then I'm afraid!

I really should find a German speaker and get them to read it to me, I guess. Based on discussions I had or was privy to I think it will leave a lot of people a little bemused.

http://www.spiralnature.com/magick/icemagi...ess_icewar.html
That's all the internets got on it. Frater U.D wrote a book on it though. It's probabely good, but it's in german.

Does anyone know if I can buy the german version of the book via internet. I can do an online translation and see what happens

As far as I know, at the moment you can only get it as a result of attending one of the Ice Magick workshops that run irregularly in Germany and buying it direct from Ralph. I think that the version I have was part of a self-published run that he had done himself. You might try contacting the Fraturnitas Saturni and asking them how you go about obtaining a copy.