Duality Options

What attitude should I have toward duality? It has long been a question in my mind.
I've try to meditate on this topic and finally accept the idea of "Good is evil ; Evil is good."

I try to embrace both the light and the dark. Problems came here.
When I heard the others' malice words, saw some "improper act", I force myself to stop criticising and resisting but embrace them, but headache had develeped whenever I do that, I can feel the "negative thoughts" fogging and causing the pain inside my head . A week ago, I even got a fever /_\ . I made effort to 'produce' some positive emotion, I felt both happy and woe at the same time, sound weird? Now, I just stop awaring of the thoughts and feel better now. However, I want to confront the idea of duality. Could you guys give me some advises and your point of view over duality ?

My learning process is also affected, as my strifing toward my goals, doing meditations, during rituals, the opposite results ' pop out' , annoying and distucbing me. If I do the same way and accept it, I will fail.And if I accept that fail means success, I will fail ! What should I do ?

And I heard that, the world is in equilibrium, because there are the good and the evil are balancing each other.If I develop myself totally toward the good side, will there be anything evil opposing aginst it in my own system? Also, I wanna ask, is that mean the god is satan? or satan is only an aspect of god ? As the god is everything.

What attitude should I have toward duality? It has long been a question in my mind.
I've try to meditate on this topic and finally accept the idea of "Good is evil ; Evil is good.

None can tell you what attitude you should have toward duality, and doing so is creating a duality of duality. A different meditation you may try other then this is good and evil are relative. One persons evil could be anothers good. Duality is created by humans. Nature dose not recognize duality. The wolf kills the fawn for food, the other deer do not recognize the wolf as evil just dangerous. Or try a different duality, up and down. Where dose up begin and down end. Say I am 5' tall and your 6' tall and we are both painting a wall. I think you get the picture. So all other dualities are relative.

I will try on this one. I'm too bounded by the mundane views
Thanks for your advise (IMG:style_emoticons/default/angel.gif)

To destroy duality, the best way (in my most humble and exalted of opinions) is to step back and look at a situation objectively.

For, as Ser 93 already pointed out duality is an illusion created by the human mind, as a result of it look at things subjectively ( in other words, from its own perspective).

It is not something easy to remedy and you will no doubt struggle with it for some time.

A different meditation you may try other then this is good and evil are relative. One persons evil could be anothers good. Duality is created by humans. Nature dose not recognize duality. The wolf kills the fawn for food, the other der do not recognize the wolf as evil just dangerous.

This is my perception for the most part, and I try to avoid using the terms "good" and "evil." Certain acts, however, I think of as "justified" or "unjustified." It may seem like I'm just playing with semantics, but there is a difference.

Example: Is murder itself wrong? No. The act itself isn't wrong, but the motivation behind the action may be put into question. If a burgler is attacking a man's family with a knife and the man kills the burgler in defense of his loved ones, that murder was justified, however, a mugger who kills someone on the street for not cooperating has performed UNjustified murder.

I find that it is easier to accept the fact that there is no good or evil when you look at motivations in the context of justified vs. unjustified.

This is my perception for the most part, and I try to avoid using the terms "good" and "evil." Certain acts, however, I think of as "justified" or "unjustified." It may seem like I'm just playing with semantics, but there is a difference.

Example: Is murder itself wrong? No. The act itself isn't wrong, but the motivation behind the action may be put into question. If a burgler is attacking a man's family with a knife and the man kills the burgler in defense of his loved ones, that murder was justified, however, a mugger who kills someone on the street for not cooperating has performed UNjustified murder.

I find that it is easier to accept the fact that there is no good or evil when you look at motivations in the context of justified vs. unjustified.

I see your point, the problem with it is that it is still dealing with a duality, created by human definition. What you may view as just or unjust will not be agreed upon by all other people even if it is agreeable to the majority. And there are those that will say the "murder" or "killing" of another human for any cause is wrong. Just ask a Tibetan monk. Or killing of any animal is "murder" and none are justified just ask any vegan or a member of PETA. Granted I think both of these groups are unreasonable from a purely human point of view. From a more universal point of view they are neither right nor wrong they are simply effects of consciousness.

I understand what you're saying, but there is a point when such consepts are taken to ridiculous extremes and it goes from philosophy to existentialism. Existentialism is the belief that you don't exist unless I say you do, that I'm not really typing this message, and dammit because it's what I believe that automaticly means it is true. Just try to argue with me, you nonexistant filament of my hallucination!

Get it?

I understand what you're saying, but there is a point when such consepts are taken to ridiculous extremes and it goes from philosophy to existentialism. Existentialism is the belief that you don't exist unless I say you do, that I'm not really typing this message, and dammit because it's what I believe that automaticly means it is true. Just try to argue with me, you nonexistant filament of my hallucination!

Get it?

Then why are you not paying my bills? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

From my personal belief system, and I have no issue with others having theirs, we are all just hallucinations of each other, from the ALL. We exist in the mind of the ALL and think we are separate and dual.

Take it back to justified or unjustified killing, a duality, this symptom of consciousness. From a stand point of my separateness with the knowledge that we are whole or one I think it is wrong to kill any human for I am killing a part of myself. At the same time knowing that few other people view this existence as I do and are only capable of seeing duality and will gladly kill me for what ever motivation, I will take their material existence to preserve mine. Hence I own a .45 and have a concealed carry permit. So it is my personal philosophy to try to live "in the world, but not of the world," and I try not to participate in the petty dualities of the world. On the other hand I am not a pacifist and do not see a problem with a bad apple being removed from the bunch.

One question here (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Separateness and wholeness seems to be another duality so they are relative to each other. And there is no absolute one or neither fragments.
But without the concept of wholeness, how do we conclude that killing others is killing a part of me ?Or is it a ultimate truth that we are 'one', and we just made up the the illusion that we are separated ?

From a stand point of my separateness with the knowledge <--
What's the knowledge indeed? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

The idea of existentialism is insteresting, but it just make me confuse that how do I form my belief system? As everything is hallicination. What should I belive before I find the veritas and before the initiation? It totally mess me up and I am quite losted.

Thanks for your advises (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

What's the knowledge indeed?

The knowledge is to understand that everything becomes a facet of duality and that in understanding that, is to understand that duality is nothing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/i_triangle.gif)

maybe... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/angel.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol_2.gif) I'm reading through this and thinking, "This really belongs in the Choas Magick section."

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol_2.gif) Yes there is a fair amount of Chaos involved here isn't there Slayden.

Out of fear that only more confession will be added to the subject if more of my thoughts were to be posted, here is a suggested source of some wonderful philosophy that will hopefully clear much of this up for you Azurael. Read the Kybalion by Three Initiates. Actually don't just read it. Meditate on it, roll it around in your mind, take it apart and put it back together. IMHO one of the most fantastic books on Hermetic philosophy and a behind the scenes look at the universe.

This post has been edited by F.R.E.E. 93: Oct 6 2007, 07:14 PM

The chaos is really deranging (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Okay, I'll try on that one and hopefully it can correct my concepts.

As I see it...

Through sight we are separate
Through sound we are one
Through number do we find,
The axiom to swing, unhinge and become undone