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Ashnook
post Jun 19 2005, 01:54 AM
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Yesterday I preformed some sigil magick that turned out to work to great effect. I wrote out "Pass driving test" using the rose cross method (using blue ink since blue correspons to mercury in the Necronomicon), then charged it. Now the heart of this discussion is the method I used to charge...ejaculation. While "building things up" I kept chanting "Pass driving test"...then when the final "moment" came I screamed "Pass driving test". Here it is crucial that you wrap yourself in the intent just as you "release" youself onto the sigil. The next day I scored a 90 on the test, this after 3 years of not having a drivers ed course. So far Ive found no alternet side effects of using this method of thaumaturgy and has worked to great effect.


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post Jul 1 2005, 12:49 AM
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I have used this technique a number of times and what i also like to do is create an original sigil that embodies the goal of what you wish to acheive. You could for example write the intent "I wish to have chicken for dinner" and then cross out all the double letters. So you have iwshtohavechknfrdn" and combine these letters into a sigil. At the "peak" moment you can visualize the sigil to aid in charging it. (This is an old Osman Spare technique popularized by Peter Carroll and the sexual end popularized by TOPY) The only time i have had problems with this technique is when you get into the habit of using it and later declare an intent or wish either out loud or in your mind strongly while simply having sex. In some ways it can become a problem in the same way that you should not perform a goetic evocation without having an idea of the intent of the ritual. It sounds stuipid but you find yourself performing magical acts at your peak without intending to.
I have a set a some specific ideas or sigils that i usually visualize to ensure that this does not happen while just having non-magickal interactions. I've often wondered if this is one of the reasons that sex usually develops strong emotional feelings because sometimes the person is shouting "I love you" even when they don't and the magickal realm simply takes over. Comments anyone?


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Alarum
post Jul 1 2005, 06:45 AM
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I always use this form of gnosis for charging sigils, although I don’t use the rose cross technique. Still, congratulations on passing your test man. A powerful sorcerer you be! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wandwizard.gif)

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post Jul 1 2005, 12:55 PM
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Congratulations on your exam!!

Once again, I come in with my opposing point of view (not saying I don't believe what you did, I believe it 100%). You had focused your energy into passing that exam, right? You could have acheived the very same results without using a cast. You obviously have very good habits towards focus and goals, your own mind can set you far without the use of "magick" per say.

Although, that form of practice is definately interesting. Sexual energy is by far one of the most potent uses of energy I have ever come across.


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post Jul 1 2005, 02:40 PM
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yes, i first did elaborate magick for some exams also.
Not sex magick, it just isn't my style, but some rituals the night before.

nowadays i just do it intuitively when they are passing out the papers.
I wait a few moments before i turn around the paper, and i make sure the paper only asks what i know, and that i know what it asks.


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post Jul 23 2005, 09:35 PM
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..And I've try combining some inejaculate orgasm technique with orgasmic gnosis.And it's FANTSATICALLY POWERFUL!.

Of course,I mean,release that *ucking thing after some few inejaculate orgasm leads you to ever more DAMN INTENSE orgasm.Try and you'll love it,buddy! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/angry_pissed_off_emoticon.gif)

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post Jul 24 2005, 09:52 AM
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WTF is an inejaculation?! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shok.gif)

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post Jul 25 2005, 08:27 AM
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First,you must understand that the state of orgasm and the release of the sperm,or ejaculation,is,in fact, not the same thing.

Normaly when you 'simply having sex' (hey,I like this phrase)or masterbation.you'll ejaculate off when you reached orgasm. That is normal,yes.

But that doesn't mean you must always shoot every time you reach Orgasm.

Well, this's hard to explained. Then let's go directly to an experiment.
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1.Find an isolate space that you can do this nasty thing without disturb.
2.Tell yourself that this's gonna be a slow,smooth,work like a classical song.Eat some sigil if you wish.
3.Take off your pants and grab your weapon,begin masturbation,yes,I mean it.(of course you can do this with your partner also if you have enough skills)
4.Ah Ah! do it ....slowwwwwlyyyyyy..... breath lightly,relax your abdomen muscle.Observe your feelings well.
5.Go on keep it smooth and FOCUS ON RELAXING your abdomen!
6.When it nearly come,stop.SQUEEZE YOUR a$%*#!*!(just like holding your shit in) you must react very quickly and squeeze definitely hard. Squeeze for 10-20sec.
7.When it calm down further your lovely masturbation,again,keep relax and slow.
8.Enjoy building,holding, and rebuilding for few rounds.
9.At last FIRE AT WILL! FEEL THE SQUEELING PLEASURE ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lightning.gif)

have fun...man

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post Aug 23 2005, 11:00 PM
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Yea... it's pretty much whacking off and stoping real quick right before you blow it. Then start it again and stop right before you blow it again. Do that a couple times and when you finnaly let your self go it is alot stronger and therefore should make for a stronger sigil.

I used it to make a sigil for not getting carded when I bought booze. It worked but it could have just been luck. Although I've been told I look younger than I really am which doesn't help with not getting carded. So... try it. I need to test mine a few more times but I am optimistic. It is definatly alot more fun than other methods of charging a sigil.

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post Aug 24 2005, 03:50 PM
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Alarum,
I think that they(dvinnihwa) are referring to the practise of Karezza, where you train yourself to not ejaculate outwardly but, instead, retain the fluid within the bladder. Retro-ejaculation. And I don't recommend it for younger males as one can develope a syndrome where it happens all the time, thus making it difficult to conceive. And before I'm roasted for this last statement, Karezza can be learned with the proper yogic exercises...the trouble is that most don't wish to find someone who can properly teach them the full exercise. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)


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post Apr 30 2006, 09:52 PM
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I've only worked with my husband in sex magick. I actually prefer working with him, not as it works better but...hehehe...it wouldn't work if I were to do it alone. I have a three year old, a cat and a husband and it's only certain to be walked in on. But, I love sex magick, the energies built up are great for workings. The only problem working with a partner is that they may not have the same desired outcome as you do. I'm glad to hear it worked that well for you.


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post May 6 2006, 06:49 AM
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QUOTE(Alarum @ Jul 24 2005, 10:52 AM) *
WTF is an inejaculation?! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shok.gif)



ROFL!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


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post May 28 2006, 02:08 AM
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Hmm...sex magick with a chaotic touch. Messy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
What if you want to re-use the sigil later on? heheh
I already see me doing that on top of the Goetia Sigils while shouting out there name (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dribble.gif)

Personally I can't see myself using this technique, because I require some form of stimulation. As in something nice to look at. I mean, how can you get a hard one by thinking about passing your exams? I'd have no sexual relation in my mind with that, quite the opposite. This is why my mind and will will start to wonder off and thus the required effect won't be achieved. Shame. However I did find a method, which I also found later on in Frater U.D. "Sigil Magick" (yes I actually have the book of it). In the past I had the problem of shooting to early which as you might guess...my partner did not like. So I delved into tantric methods to prolong it all. The techniques described are interesting and pretty easy to use.

When you feel nearly at the climax stop and let the throbbing subside while keeping your breathing slow and steady. After the throbbing subsided then you can go on for several hours as long as you keep making sure the breathing stays regulated. You will experience several orgasmic like moments within yourself and thus the "power" and passion will grow. When you feel ready then just fill up your partner (what a colorfull discription) while visualising the sigil and all that relates to it in your mind. *cough* works wonders so far and is the only technique I know of and actually tried.

One need led to the technique of something else.

Still there is an ethical aspect involved here. Do you tell your partner when you're going to "use" her for sigil magic or will you leave it in the midst? Your partner will most like not like it if it is something else you're thinking about. So then will you let the partner in on it? I personally rather keep my magical/energetical workings a secret untill it is manifested. Simply due to my personal beliefs that someone else can nullify the work and effort if they desire too with countermeasures. Yah I'm a bit paranoid heheh

*gets the idea this is turning into a "how to satisfy your partner more" kind of a thread" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/922.gif)

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post Jun 13 2006, 11:00 PM
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Store the energy part of yours sexual output inside of a crystal or something like that.

Grounding to a planet or star is probably better energy source then sexual output, IMO, but it depends which kind of energy someone is looking for.

I just recently realized [?] that sexual energy can be processed & broken down into an astral element similar to a physical stemcell, and then used in a complex way to mutate your astral body or grow new astral body parts. But this has to do with heterosis, you must find a girl or woman with high quality sexual energy -- and hopefully she's willing to get drained of it.

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post Jun 27 2006, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE(Quarad @ Jun 14 2006, 01:00 AM) *
Store the energy part of yours sexual output inside of a crystal or something like that.

Grounding to a planet or star is probably better energy source then sexual output, IMO, but it depends which kind of energy someone is looking for.

I just recently realized [?] that sexual energy can be processed & broken down into an astral element similar to a physical stemcell, and then used in a complex way to mutate your astral body or grow new astral body parts. But this has to do with heterosis, you must find a girl or woman with high quality sexual energy -- and hopefully she's willing to get drained of it.


Common misconception regarding the energies embodied in men and women - presence of the male and female gender is simply a symbol of the duality inherent in other aspects of the universe. While Women are more in touch naturally with "Feminine" energy and males naturally in touch with 'Masculine' energy, it is totally possible to develope and tap into your own Feminine energetic potential. In fact, as for the subject of sexual energy itself, the 'masculine' Sexual energy is what you experience when you are giving sexual pleasure to another, and the feminine you are experiencing when being given pleasure. Doing it all yourself, is in way experiencing both the feminine and masculine sides at once, although most are more focused on only the feminine.

Also, the practice of building energy through Karezza can be added to slightly to be perfect for directing that energy towards magick, by simply focusing your attention on the Sigil or repository suddenly and completely during the big pull (the clench), breathing outwards as though bring into that object. This drains the sexual energy out of the act and into the object, and you may find yourself suddenly riveted upon the object for a moment, sometimes even long enough to become flacid all together.

Female sexuality is totally alien to me, i'm afraid. I do wonder if sex magick works differently for them.

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