Reducing age, Reducing age through hypnotism Options

" Impossible is the word in the dictionary of the fools ", said Napoleon Bonaparte. Reducing one's age is not impossible. Only thing is that you should know how to harness the science of hypnotism. Sub-conscious is to be commanded and activated to reduce one's age. Technique is as somple as under :-
Sit in an arm-chair. Close your eyes. Imagine yourself sitting inside a golden pyramid which is surrounded by dazzling & shimmering diamond-white light. Observe your breath. Make inhalations & exhalations long & deep. Now reverse-count from 100 to 1 synchronizing with exhalations. At the end, mind will get into alpha state. Now visualize yourself as a youthful & energetic person carrying out various activities which only a young person can do. Let it continue for a few minutes. Count now forwardly from 1 to 20 and come out of the trance.
You can carry out this practice for 5 to 15 minutes twice a day. In course of a few months, you will feel your age reducing. I will not be surprised if a 100 years old wrinkled & hunched man becomes a 20 years old naughty boy after a 1 year regular practice done sincerely.

Care to provide any evidence that this is more than just a fantasy?
Keeping mentally active in to old age has been shown to improve quality of life. Keeping physically fit has been shown to improve quality of life. Neither has been shown (to my knowledge) to increase longevity by more than a couple of years beyond the expected average.

Theoretically speaking, if the body had the capacity to do it, under hypnosis one could reverse the aging process (which is a function of degradation of certain parts on the chromosomes).

It's possible, if one takes into account the fact that some of the old myths involved people living a considerably longer existance.

But I got nothing to back up that hypothesis.

It's possible, if one takes into account the fact that some of the old myths involved people living a considerably longer existance.

Pre-disposition to longevity is different from regressive ageing. I read an interesting theory regarding a sea/body of water suspended above the earth which reduced solar radiation and so allowed for increased longevity. This body of water then fell to earth during some cataclysmic event and gave rise to the 'flood' myths found in many ancient cultures.

*snickers*

The breath is the very thing which causes us to age in the first place! Breathing more, or differently will not help us to prolong our lives. The extra oxygen that our body cannot process floats around and obliterates our DNA, this causes our cells to breakdown as they replicate over time. This is also why all of the anti-aging foods so happen to be anti-oxidants.

Hell...and I was willing to give it a go.....!
I'm afraid that I'd mummify inside the pyramid before reaching my desired age...*sigh*(IMG:style_emoticons/default/00000037.gif)
I guess that I'll try to remain young at heart....
Yeah, isn't it funny? I now require oxygen in order to maintain some semblence of life...and with every breathe of it I cause yet more oxidation! Maybe if I eat alot of BHT....naw! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Live life to the fullest, it is all to fleeting to waste...

Exactly! Live life to the fullest.

You know, George Burns smoked like a chimney and drank every day, yet he lived to be 100 years old! Then there was some guy who was a fitness guru during the 1990's, he was found dead of a heart attack on a jogging trail (found by two smokers, go figure).

My philosophy: "Eat right, exercise, die anyway."

My diet: "I think everyone should go on my diet. It's called the f%*! It Diet. Basically what it is is if I want to eat something but it has a lot of fat or carbs, I just take a moment, and I go within, and I say "f%*! it" and I eat it. You have to do it six times a day. It works really well with the f%*! That Shit Exercise Program." (Margaret Cho)

Life of a child starts after it starts breathing. Moment a person stops breathing, he/she is dead. In other words, life is synonimous with breathing. During inhalation, breath makes the sound of 'so' or 'sa' and oxygenation of our physico-mental system-matrix takes place. During exhalation, breath makes the sound 'ham' and toxins are released or thrown out of our body. There is a close relationship between breathing pattern and the mental state.

i can by willpower defend myself against any form of illness. I think i should be able to use my willpower to age more slowly.

I will get back to these forums once i turn 120 and know for sure that i am not delusional. Then i will spill my entire theory.

That is, if science hasn't found a way to prolong life by then, since thats 100 years from now, a lot can happen in 100 years...
With all the DNA research going on, who knows... Perhaps when my heart weakens I'll get a new one, or a new liver, or a new pair of lungs.

Then it is up to the brain to live as long it can, better focus on the brains then, keep them in mint condition, the rest can pine away, I'll get substitutes for those.

I have found quite effective the technique of 'superconscious mind tap' that has been invented by the great hypnotist Dr. Bruce Goldberg of Los Angeles, California. He has amalgamated youthing into it.

Why can't anyone except that fact that we all die? I'm all for getting old, old age is wisdom and beauty (well, we do have exceptions to that). It actually sickens me what people will go through just to stay young looking; body farms, tons of plastic surgery, pills like non other, 84 step daily cleansing and moisture care. Death and age is inevitable.

To put it my words, tough s***, it's life. Deal with it.

Rin, your a sage. I've been protesting this whole new fad with low carb, low fat, low calorie, low everything crap since I've seen it. I actually make it a point to find everything that I eat full of as many carbs as I like. My landlady is obsessed with that, and I love walking around with my shirt and wrist band that say "I (IMG:style_emoticons/default/throb.gif) Carbs. People have died because of that junk (and people have died because of the opposite, but I like to think they at least died happy, and full). Although, macrobiotics is really good eatin! Even though it follows the "I have to starve myself of essential nutrients" rule every now and then.

I had not intended to mean that you try any artificial methods to make you look younger superficially. Why do you not realize that old age debilitates, disbles, incapacitates and handicaps you so that you are a liability to yourself, your family, society, country, world and complete gamut of existenc from Matter to Spirit. Exception arises when you intend to experience more negative than positive nuances of the old age.

This post has been edited by durki: Jul 2 2005, 02:50 AM

Why do I not realize? I realize perfectly well what the negative aspects are, my mother has worked in a nursing home for 17 years, and I get to hear and see alot of what goes on. But I, accept the fact that it happens, as sad as it is. Once again, it's called LIFE. That thing that started a bazillion years ago when humans came into existence?

What I also realize, is that there will ALWAYS be a negative to a postive, and vise versa, that's also a part of Life. I see how some seniors are effecting the world financily, etc, but I see that alot of it is not their fault. You try asking someone with alzheimers what they think of themselves draining the system? Seriously, try it. You'd be put off by their reaction when they have absolutely no idea who they are half the time, and even more put off by the sheer fact that have no idea what your talking about at all. To project something so negative on seniors like makes me almost ill!

What about the people in jail? What about the welfare? Seniors are NOT the only ones who effect the world in ways that are negative.

Old age has been around longer than anything else. Illness and death have been around forever too. What the hell makes ANYONE think that they have the power to defeat it all? We can't. Methusala (sp?) had somethin goin on there, most definately, but I'd love to see an entire population of 6.3 billion people try it. There are some problems with that...overcrowding, less food, materials, more wars. Do you really think that increasing the longevity of humanity is a positive? Please....

Using metaphysical and new age ways as fulfilling youth, are exactly like plastic surgery, or billions of pills that make you feel like crap. It all boils down to one thing, you cannot face your own death. If you accpeted it, then worrying about increasing your life span would not even be a thought in your mind.

I still cannot believe how harsh you are towards old age. Totally unbelievable.

What I had meant was that you need not unconsciously die as toothless, decrepit, old and imbecile person broken in body, mind, heart & soul unless you yourself out of your own volition in consultation with your Guide-Master in astral sphere chose so before birth on earth for the sake of experiencing pains, sufferings and sorrows of natural old age of a common person. Instead, we can have a conscious death of a healthy youthful person though actual earthly age may be more. Point is that we should be able to contribute until our last breath.

you both have good points.

I would rather die with some dignity left intact.
However, everything you came up with durki is very materialistic in nature. With that sort of thinking you will get all it is you fear, thats the way the world teaches.

But be prepared everyone will die, so will I. maybe even tomorrow.


Longevity has certain benefits.
1. people can work longer, if they stay fit longer they can work longer.
2. people that work long cost less training, they know the work, less need to train new people.
3. who knows what Einstein could have thought up when he had lived 20 years longer in good health.

The negatives like we experience now are only temporary. until society adapts to it.

On a side note, science is advancing. They will eventually create a way to a dramatical increase in longevity. Even certain immortality perhaps...
Perhaps before our time but...

What I am driving at is not longevity but living a youthful life with healthy body and alert mind free of senescence & other debilities associated with old age. Life span need not be more. Death is inevitable on earth but we should have smooth & conscious transition to the apt astral sphere that we deserve.

A "common person" will ALWAYS experience old age. No matter what you do to try and stop it, nature will win.

Sure, the talk of dignity is there, and it will be, if you let it. My grandad passed away from leukemia, and when the body is weakening, there are a few things that you don't want your family to see. But after somethings happened with him, you could almost see it that he accepted what was going on, and was more relaxed about it. Now, he's old school German, pride coming out of every orifice plus some. But he understood that what was happening to him, is something he couldn't stop. And his dignity was still intact the moment he took his last breath.

You can walk into a 5 star diner wearing street clothes, and still have your chin up because you yourself know who you are and what you have done and will do. Dignity is maintained through self, not the people around you. Grandad taught me that, and I will never doubt it.

yeah, dignity is not Dependant on outside sources.

Not everyone gets a fatal disease on old age however. Many people just die healthy in their sleep. I would rather not have a lingering illness when aging. I would not like seeing my body shut down piece by piece.

My grand parents go biking when the sun shines. They ride 60 Km on a day. They are in very good health, they claim to be in better health than 20 years ago.
That is the way i would like to age.

And i can assure you, that is the way i will age. I will not have an illness that will eat at me while i grow toward my death. My magick is strong enough to provide me at least with:
A healthy old age, and a calm death in the coach, falling asleep and not waking up again.

Perhaps strong words, but i trust myself and my skills at least to that extent. I have many years to weave that magical web.

I will use my old age to study the occult and to train and keep myself in physical shape and to teach my grand children. I am looking forward to that time.

Not strong at all! Positive! You will yourself to grow old gracefully, and it usually happens in most cases.

Yay for positive thinking!

Man is made in the image of God. We are here to conquer Nature and not be subservient to It. I met one saint in Himalayas who is 18oo years old but looks only 18 years. There is infinite potential within each one of us. All that is required to be done is to tap it. We have to discover & devise the requisite techniques. Treasure inside us is waiting to be unlocked.

Durki, that is the Christian viewpoint. The first buddhist Precept has a different view on the relationship between Man and Nature...

"Aware of the suffering caused by the destruction of life, I am committed to cultivating compassion and learning ways to protect the lives of people, animals, plants, and minerals. I am determined not to kill, not to let others kill, and not to condone any act of killing in the world, in my thinking, and in my way of life."

Mankinds attempts to conquer nature often lead to failure, suffering and death for humans and animals/plants alike. Is living in harmony now viewed as being 'subservient'? You mention the Himalayas. I read today an article about glacial melt due to global warming causing lakes to appear that have burst their natural but fragile rock dams and washed away villages. The glacias that are the source of the water for the Holy river Ganges are at risk of melting away.

We have our time upon this earth. We are born, we live and we die. We can impose ourselves upon nature, pillage its resources and leave the planet a weakened and polluted mess for those generations that will follow us. Or we can try and 'do no harm', see ourselves as custodians who owe it to future generations to leave them a planet worth living on.

we have infinite potential, but we also have the infinite opportunity's to fail that potential.

yay for positive thinking indeed, its a way of life that leads to happiness.

There are also monks in Tibet who drink sad from a certain pine, and eat the bark of that pine. Why? Because it preserves the body. But it's such a disciplines practice (and dangerous) that barely a handful even practice it today.

Some people can do it, but it doesn't always mean that it's the right thing to do for others.

There are certain herbs known as 'kayakalpa' in Himalayas which if you take before going to bed then you will get up next day morning a different person not unlike Dr.Jekyll getting up as Mr.Hyde. I mean your character & attitude will remain same but if you are 75, you may get up as a 25 years old person.

There are certain herbs known as 'kayakalpa' in Himalayas which if you take before going to bed then you will get up next day  morning a different person not unlike Dr.Jekyll getting up as Mr.Hyde. I mean your character & attitude will remain same but if you are 75, you may get up as a 25 years old person.

Where may I buy some of these herbs? A fairly large amount might be necessary. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/angel.gif)

hey, give me the location of the plant, and i will go search for it.

mods, forgive me for voicing this, i know it may not comply to the forum rules, but...

just saying, durki, you do know that what you just said is complete nonsense.
what chemicals in the plant may be the cause of such sudden change in age.
Perhaps its magical, but i doubt a plant can have such magical properties to change your age by 50 years...

Kayakalpa is not available in market. Owners of this herb are bearded guys living in cold caves of Himalayas & they are generally inaccessible.
Instead of the above, let me tell you about a technique which is known as 'para kaya pravesh' in sanskrit. In this technique, an old person discards his physical body voluntarily and makes his astral body enter the physical body of a just dead young person by joining the silver cord. It is well known in the West that a Tibetan monk Lobsang Rampa occupied the body of a suicidal englishman Hoskins. Subsequently Hoskins went to live in astral sphere and Rampa moved to Canada and lived in Calgary with his 'wife' ( Hoskins' wife ). Rampa wrote many books.

I thought the Kayakalpa was a number of different herbs and medicines (ginger, lemon, etc.) and the practice was tied to a form of yoga disciplines related to it. I always thought it was a number of different things rather than one herb and that it's practice was meant to retard ageing (slow it down) rather than reverse it. Along the same lines as simply getting excercise and eating healthy. I have never heard of any idea that you could simply swallow the herb and wake up 50 years younger.


Has a "new" Rampa announced himself after his death in 81?
Since he has mastered this technique, surely he must have used it again to continue his teachings.
Perhaps he left a convenient loophole by stating that his work on this plane was done and he had no need to come back? I am not speaking as an expert here but looking for more info. Thanx