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GoeticPrince57
post Dec 18 2005, 08:23 PM
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Im new to goetic evokations, and I would just like to know what tools are need for sucess. heres what I have circle, triangle,robe,wand, sword. I made the circle, and the triangle myself, the sigils are made out of parchment written in doves blood ink. The wand I bought, the sword is ur tipical double edge sword. I blessed all my tools with holy water. Im not using any particular method, Im pretty much just "mixing and maching" as I go along. So is this good enough


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post Dec 19 2005, 11:29 AM
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Greeting Moonburn!
Ah.... we disagree! You may be a natural at this stuff...but most are not. Your casual referencing to Paimon alerted me. Paimon is a Goetic 'king' as it were. Mostly, demons are not that interested in humans unless you have something they want. Generally, as a newbie, you won't have anything really worthwhile...with a couple of exceptions...one being that you have an innate gift for channeling or materializations or two, that alot of the probability threads leading away from you converge with the potential of being utilized down the line. Demons usually stay away from magicians because they end up being used by such and are therefore, something to be avoided. When one becomes proficient in magic then one becomes more desireable to demonic entities (as tools/conveniences). Your experiences with Paimon point in the direction of useful. OR, that you have dedicated your life to Demonalatry (or similar). Priests/esses of demons get preferential treatment. IMHO, of course. (go on newbie...you don't need protection...or a circle...or anything! Asmodeus will be glad to give you the mental fortitude you should be developing on your own! He'll protect you! Why not start with a succubus/incubus? Piece of Cake! Why bother with all that boring work...?)
Demonic Evocation is not Fluffy Bunnies! Wake Up! Don't get me wrong...a positive attitude is a great plus but run-of-the-mill psychology about personal boundaries is not enough!
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Sure it is. I've never actually used any ritual methods to evoke entities. I just focus on their energy and make a strong connection to it (I also draw the energy to me.. which I think is what actually does it). They usually come pretty quickly after that. Your results are determined by your personality, mostly.

And, pray tell, where did you hear about evocation and energy work? The 'focus' and the 'connection'? The tools used by magicians ARE the physical embodiment of the will and the focus! As you become more comfortable with your own abilities then the need for material things is significently reduced! Look up the word 'ritual'....you use ritual every time you gather your will and focus. It's a series of mental steps that you perform to get the desired results. 'Make a strong connection..' is a ritual. It may not be written in the Lemegeton but the inference is there. There are many different ways to Evocation...as well as Invocation.

Trying to assess the ability level of the querent and give appropriate responses to said questions is something that requires a more thoughtful approach.


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