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post Dec 21 2005, 06:18 AM
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Dualistic thinking is very relevant to people following spiritual paths of any kind, since it involves believers who claim to see and experience another existence and others who having not experienced anything they would describe as other-worldy, disregard these claims and it therefore divides people into two camps.

The language used is also a form of dualism as it separates entities into good and bad and places into discrete areas thus: Heaven and Hell.

Is dualistic thinking useful and a good way of hanging ideas on hooks for further exploration or does it lead to extremes of thought that lack balance and settle people into positions that are hard to find their way out of?

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post Dec 22 2005, 09:32 AM
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In order to change your system of judgement you must first understand what it is made up of. What makes up your belief system, your personality, your moral. This is something which I mentioned in a previous post.

Most people take over other peoples, or generally accepted, ideals and personality traits. These often create, what I find, limitations. People are responsible for their own life and personality. However most takes places on a subconcious level. People do change over time, but it is never an easy change. The reason is because most people battle themselves...their concious vs subconcious. But in fact those two should be working together.

Causing a change isn't as easy as I make it seem. No it takes practice and can be very confrontational with yourself. You will have to take your subconcious and make it concious. See, feel, experience every thought and every personality trait you have and anything else. You will notice that a lot of personality traits and ways of thought are not how you truly want to be. You will feel uncomfortable with many observations about yourself. By acknowledging them to be there, without automatically casting judgement over them....you can then accept them and embrace your negative aspects. Accept them to be there instead of fighting against them. Once you've done that you can slowly get rid/alter your personality and way of thinking. This is basically how you change your moral system and anything else you want to alter, because you're feeling unhappy about them.

Is it worth doing so? Very much so. It'll be painfull and confrontational, but you'll learn more about yourself and everything around you. You will be able to become the person you truly want to be and solve issues because you'll understand that most issues were created in ways that make no sense at all when you think about it. You'll find more peace of mind and not only become more open minded, but more open hearted as well. Because you'll see that most dualistic is a way of shielding yourself out of harms way you'll end up not feeling the need to shield yourself off and show yourself....your true self.

How far is dualistic thinking usefull? In my opinion it's useless. There is only one aspect in which it is usefull. Since you're judging everything you're catagorizing everything. This makes it easier to have a clear over view in order to deal with matters. However...if you wouldn't judge, you wouldn't even have most issues to begin with. You wouldn't be spending a lot of energy and would actually have more left to spend on other things. More positive things to attract into your life and the peope around you.

People say this is Masterbation of the mind or that this way of "philosophical" thinking is useless. I'm sorry to disapoint you all. In my case it is experience - knowledge - wisdom. I actually live this way and never even thought I was being philosophical or living in a fake textbook world. This actually IS my life and I'm talking from years of experience.

Now let's be philosophical. What is this "real world" you all talk about? We all generate our own realities in which we live, microcosm.

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Radiant Star   Dualistic thinking   Dec 21 2005, 06:18 AM
Sabazel   I strongly disagree with this point of view. Duali...   Dec 21 2005, 12:34 PM
mediocracy   And for those of us living in the real world ra...   Dec 21 2005, 03:21 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   i do not agree mediocracy. The things you refer t...   Dec 21 2005, 05:08 PM
Zahaqiel   I also disagree with Mediocracy in part. For inst...   Dec 21 2005, 09:50 PM
chaoscrowley37   We need to come to some understanding of what we v...   Dec 22 2005, 12:00 AM
Sabazel   Interesting discussion is forming here. @medicric...   Dec 22 2005, 02:03 AM
chaoscrowley37   This is where I think your reasoning becomes flaw...   Dec 22 2005, 02:17 AM
Zahaqiel   Your posts are littered with dualistic thought whi...   Dec 22 2005, 02:34 AM
chaoscrowley37   Actually, you're falling for a fallacy of equ...   Dec 22 2005, 02:42 AM
chaoscrowley37   I'll make it simple to know what we are discus...   Dec 22 2005, 03:11 AM
mediocracy   I am sure ut is fun to debate and counter-debate t...   Dec 22 2005, 03:25 AM
mediocracy   Have I Moderated your posts in any way, shape o...   Dec 22 2005, 03:36 AM
Zahaqiel   Med - he's more saying that you have an integr...   Dec 22 2005, 03:44 AM
chaoscrowley37   I'm not trying to be spiteful, I am honestly t...   Dec 22 2005, 04:12 AM
Sabazel   My apologies to Mediocracy. I was not attacking yo...   Dec 22 2005, 04:37 AM
Sabazel   The teachings are flawless in most cases. Howeve...   Dec 22 2005, 04:42 AM
Radiant Star   Thank you Sabazel, this topic has moved on apace s...   Dec 22 2005, 05:06 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   changing ones point of view is almost impossible. ...   Dec 22 2005, 05:59 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   this entire topic is about duality. The duality of...   Dec 23 2005, 01:20 AM
Sabazel   I'm not offended in any way. I see my own flaw...   Dec 23 2005, 02:37 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   Wonderfull, i was afraid i was being a bit to hars...   Dec 23 2005, 10:58 AM
Sabazel   In control of my ego? Well in a lot situations I a...   Dec 23 2005, 12:28 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   hehe, i agree with many points. our problem with ...   Dec 23 2005, 02:06 PM
esoterica   Dualistic thinking is indeed a flawed result of ...   Dec 24 2005, 10:05 AM
Sabazel   Fox it isn't so much the language/sound barrie...   Dec 27 2005, 05:21 AM
alia   That’s a very interesting discussion. From my poin...   Feb 11 2006, 02:34 PM
GunpowderPerfume   Based off all I've read from this thread: It...   Feb 11 2006, 06:55 PM
GunpowderPerfume   haha actually, dualistic thinking in itself is a p...   Feb 11 2006, 06:57 PM
alia   It depends on how you approaching a concept. For e...   Feb 11 2006, 08:32 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   dualistic thinking is not the same as dualism. and...   Feb 12 2006, 07:11 AM
GunpowderPerfume   ... :roflmao: For some reason A Smoking Fox, the ...   Feb 18 2006, 02:39 PM
Sabazel   You don't have to choose a side, because lif...   Feb 21 2006, 03:39 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   by all means, do choose to stop beathing. If you f...   Feb 21 2006, 05:20 AM
bym   Greetings! I hope that this discussion is actu...   Feb 21 2006, 10:05 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   Its not the result that matters, it is the path wa...   Feb 22 2006, 10:46 AM
Radiant Star   I think since I started this thread and we didn...   Feb 22 2006, 11:00 AM
Sabazel   Well I personally found what I was looking for in ...   Mar 7 2006, 06:02 AM
Praxis   Dualistic Thinking / Non-Dualistic Thinking = Dual...   Nov 19 2008, 08:20 PM
valkyrie   lol. yes. im not sure we can escape dualism. since...   Nov 22 2008, 12:50 AM
Praxis   For a while in the 80s and early 90s, many of the ...   Nov 29 2008, 08:26 PM

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