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post Dec 21 2005, 06:18 AM
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Dualistic thinking is very relevant to people following spiritual paths of any kind, since it involves believers who claim to see and experience another existence and others who having not experienced anything they would describe as other-worldy, disregard these claims and it therefore divides people into two camps.

The language used is also a form of dualism as it separates entities into good and bad and places into discrete areas thus: Heaven and Hell.

Is dualistic thinking useful and a good way of hanging ideas on hooks for further exploration or does it lead to extremes of thought that lack balance and settle people into positions that are hard to find their way out of?

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post Dec 23 2005, 12:28 PM
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In control of my ego? Well in a lot situations I am, however there are still several situations in which I react through primal instinct and intuition. These are personal times when my ego takes hold over me. People call me wise, some called me a Guru...but personally I don't share those opinions. I'm just me, another imperfect being who is learning more each and every day.

I also try to keep an open mind. It is the only way to hear things and see things in new ways in which you might've never thought about it. I've read a book from Emoto whome did research onto water crystals and the effects of words/sounds. Even though the research itself is onorthodox it still holds a lot of interesting new insights which will make you think. One of the things it made me realize was... Everything is energy and everything is in constant movement, it is free and not confined. When you make water, energy, stand still it will become stagnant. Slowly it will grow weaker and eventually die/fade away. Seeing that the human fysiology is made up of about 70-80% of water it would make sense that people should stay openminded. If you're closed you will become stagnant, including the energies and water inside of you. You'll harm yourself over time.

Truth is not so much an illusion, it too is open to interpetation. Everyone has their own truth which is made up of all which were mentioned in previous posts. The ego, personality, experiences, doctrinations which also form the morality you speak off. The final product is indeed the divider. So basically we all got our own set standards which we use to live our lifes. But we already agreed upon that.

Dualistic Thinking is interesting to think about, discuss and actually live it (as far as it is possible). The "Good vs Evil" aspect of dualistic thinking is as clear as water to myself. The other aspects still make me wonder, because the same rules don't seem to apply for some odd reason. However it makes you think and you will discuss topics which aren't directly related, but still are about the human psyche. You will come to a greater understanding of how the human mind, ego, personality, emotions etc work...also when looked at on a larger social scale. You will come to understand and notice the "Flaws" within yourself for once. Flaws which basically are the aspects you personally don't feel comfortable with...and then you can adjust it. Which also, automatically, adjusts the Divider Line you speak off.

I've learned that it is indeed great to live in the NOW and look at each event as if it is a new one. To look at each thought, action, event as a new one instead of looking at the chain reactions or conflicts which follow due to previous events. If you look at the chain you will start to realize that with each new event added to the chain your emotions grow and the situation escalations. Chain events which lead to conflicts can be avoided this way. But you will also lose out on Chain Events which build up positive emotions such as love. It's difficult to find a balance, but worth it. You can reduce frustrations and anger, which will only eat you up from within. You can also use it to enhance your expressions of love and happiness. But it requires anticipation, which also uses part of judging events.

This is why I feel confused about dualistic thinkin at times. I know that my thinking is partially flawed, but my feelings tell me that it is indeed possible to stop dualistic thinking. Life will always depend on you making decisions, almost every single second of the day. However do people also look at the events, look at various options before making the decision, understanding the effects each decision might have before making it and also the full capability of taking responsibility of the outcome of the decision no matter if it is positive or negative? Most people can not, because they can't look ahead that far or simply refuse to take responsibility. The main reason people can't is because most takes place unconciously as well as pre-programmed reaction. Being concious of all at all times is the key I feel.

I feel I'm digressing from the topic and got little more (new) to add to it all (IMG:style_emoticons/default/13.gif)

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Radiant Star   Dualistic thinking   Dec 21 2005, 06:18 AM
Sabazel   I strongly disagree with this point of view. Duali...   Dec 21 2005, 12:34 PM
mediocracy   And for those of us living in the real world ra...   Dec 21 2005, 03:21 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   i do not agree mediocracy. The things you refer t...   Dec 21 2005, 05:08 PM
Zahaqiel   I also disagree with Mediocracy in part. For inst...   Dec 21 2005, 09:50 PM
chaoscrowley37   We need to come to some understanding of what we v...   Dec 22 2005, 12:00 AM
Sabazel   Interesting discussion is forming here. @medicric...   Dec 22 2005, 02:03 AM
chaoscrowley37   This is where I think your reasoning becomes flaw...   Dec 22 2005, 02:17 AM
Zahaqiel   Your posts are littered with dualistic thought whi...   Dec 22 2005, 02:34 AM
chaoscrowley37   Actually, you're falling for a fallacy of equ...   Dec 22 2005, 02:42 AM
chaoscrowley37   I'll make it simple to know what we are discus...   Dec 22 2005, 03:11 AM
mediocracy   I am sure ut is fun to debate and counter-debate t...   Dec 22 2005, 03:25 AM
mediocracy   Have I Moderated your posts in any way, shape o...   Dec 22 2005, 03:36 AM
Zahaqiel   Med - he's more saying that you have an integr...   Dec 22 2005, 03:44 AM
chaoscrowley37   I'm not trying to be spiteful, I am honestly t...   Dec 22 2005, 04:12 AM
Sabazel   My apologies to Mediocracy. I was not attacking yo...   Dec 22 2005, 04:37 AM
Sabazel   The teachings are flawless in most cases. Howeve...   Dec 22 2005, 04:42 AM
Radiant Star   Thank you Sabazel, this topic has moved on apace s...   Dec 22 2005, 05:06 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   changing ones point of view is almost impossible. ...   Dec 22 2005, 05:59 AM
Sabazel   In order to change your system of judgement you mu...   Dec 22 2005, 09:32 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   this entire topic is about duality. The duality of...   Dec 23 2005, 01:20 AM
Sabazel   I'm not offended in any way. I see my own flaw...   Dec 23 2005, 02:37 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   Wonderfull, i was afraid i was being a bit to hars...   Dec 23 2005, 10:58 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   hehe, i agree with many points. our problem with ...   Dec 23 2005, 02:06 PM
esoterica   Dualistic thinking is indeed a flawed result of ...   Dec 24 2005, 10:05 AM
Sabazel   Fox it isn't so much the language/sound barrie...   Dec 27 2005, 05:21 AM
alia   That’s a very interesting discussion. From my poin...   Feb 11 2006, 02:34 PM
GunpowderPerfume   Based off all I've read from this thread: It...   Feb 11 2006, 06:55 PM
GunpowderPerfume   haha actually, dualistic thinking in itself is a p...   Feb 11 2006, 06:57 PM
alia   It depends on how you approaching a concept. For e...   Feb 11 2006, 08:32 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   dualistic thinking is not the same as dualism. and...   Feb 12 2006, 07:11 AM
GunpowderPerfume   ... :roflmao: For some reason A Smoking Fox, the ...   Feb 18 2006, 02:39 PM
Sabazel   You don't have to choose a side, because lif...   Feb 21 2006, 03:39 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   by all means, do choose to stop beathing. If you f...   Feb 21 2006, 05:20 AM
bym   Greetings! I hope that this discussion is actu...   Feb 21 2006, 10:05 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   Its not the result that matters, it is the path wa...   Feb 22 2006, 10:46 AM
Radiant Star   I think since I started this thread and we didn...   Feb 22 2006, 11:00 AM
Sabazel   Well I personally found what I was looking for in ...   Mar 7 2006, 06:02 AM
Praxis   Dualistic Thinking / Non-Dualistic Thinking = Dual...   Nov 19 2008, 08:20 PM
valkyrie   lol. yes. im not sure we can escape dualism. since...   Nov 22 2008, 12:50 AM
Praxis   For a while in the 80s and early 90s, many of the ...   Nov 29 2008, 08:26 PM

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