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post Jan 16 2006, 12:18 AM
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Hi all... I did not know on which forum to post this topic and i hope its not a problem putting it here...
Well I've read that everyone has 2 angels with him/her... One the guardian angel who accompanies us in all incarnations etc.. and the normal angel who is with us for this particular incarnation...
Then if any person has 2 angels with him/her and above that there are archangels/Principalities/Virtues/Powers/Dominions/Thrones/Cherubim/Seraphim who are here to protect humanity, then how come sometimes there are extreme crimes being committed to innocent people... the crime i hate most is rape... Could someone elaborate on when are the angels supposed to interfere... Rape is a case where i think even satan could come to the rescue if called upon...This statement is to show how much i condemn such a crime....
Any body can enlighten me on why such crimes get committed without the interference of those who have to protect us?

Well this question may seem silly,but i need to lean a lots on the functioning of this world...


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post Jan 19 2006, 05:41 AM
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QUOTE(Thief)
The more pain we can handle, the more pain we will get. There is no end to suffering, and shouldn't be either. Without pain and fear what would become of us? Not sure if we could even take care of ourselves. We'd be like a mushroom for others to pick and eat.
We get stronger, we get better, but in the end we only get used.

I often use the perspective of life's evolution on earth. It is headed somewhere. And I am sure not the one running it.

I don't believe in a God that sits and do nothing. I think all is controlled, by every breath you take.
I don't think it's all controlled - what would be the point? The closest comparable situation I could use as an example would not be a liked one - imagine that you're running a roleplaying game, and you make two of the non-player characters, that you've put a ton of detail into, fall in love. The whole thing seems utterly pointless.
I'd agree that God is in everything, but I wouldn't say that it controls everything.

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After many complex thoughts I found the answer to be so simple, so obvious. Shortly after the book "An Unusual Conversation with God" by Neal Walsch or so was brought to my attention.
"Conversations with God: An Uncommon Dialogue". I very nearly mentioned it in my post at the top.

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First you have to drop al misconceptions that religions have about their God. Why create a God that is unconditional Love and gave everyone free will yet he lets you be born in sin and wants you to do certain things in order to redeem yourself so you won't go pay a visit to satan.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol_2.gif) Too common a misconception about Christianity. I invite you to find a single place in the bible where it says that Satan rules hell. In fact, if you read it in the original Hebrew/Greek, you find out that there are four different afterlives (Heaven, Sheol (the grave, which is where all souls go to at first), Hell (a place without God) and Tartarus (slaughtering place of angels)).
And taken in that light, it makes a ton of sense - people go exactly where they want to be, either with God, or without.

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Like the angel that was happy and was always in the light, the centre of the sun. God talked about the darkness, but the angel didn't know what it was. So God told the angel where to go. Once surrounded by complete darkness the angel was scared and felt abondend by it's father. But God said not to worry, because he's there even in darkness and that he is all and you should not fear darkness but embrace it because it is a part of you as well. Embrace it and not be overwhelmed because you can return to whereever you want to be in the blink of an eye.
Not quite what it says, but then again, the book disproves its own deity in some places, if you look really carefully.
I don't dispute the author's methods, but I do have suspicions about his spiritual enlightener.


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The value of an individual is not numerically assignable. Given the individual's infinite capacity to affect change (for better or for worse), it follows that their value is just as infinite. Logically then, not only are all individuals of equal value, but all possible combinations and groupings of individuals are of equal value, and finally, no matter an individual's past actions, their capacity to affect positive change is not diminished.

The value of the individual is sacrosanct, but actions must be directed in an effort to affect positive change.

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mystick   Angels   Jan 16 2006, 12:18 AM
Zahaqiel   I've yet to come across much in the way of ang...   Jan 16 2006, 12:50 AM
bloodwolf666   I've yet to come across much in the way of ang...   Feb 25 2006, 01:48 PM
thief_and_a_liar   Let me try my brain on this one. What mystick is ...   Jan 17 2006, 08:20 PM
mystick   you make me remind of a book, where a monk gets ab...   Jan 18 2006, 01:26 AM
thief_and_a_liar   If you are confused with life, consider these: 1....   Jan 18 2006, 11:02 AM
Zahaqiel   Sorry Thief, but I gotta disagree with you on a po...   Jan 19 2006, 01:18 AM
mystick   Hello Zahaqiel and thief, Well i got gr8 repleid f...   Jan 19 2006, 01:32 AM
Sabazel   This is an interesting thread on which I'd lik...   Jan 19 2006, 03:12 AM
thief_and_a_liar   The more pain we can handle, the more pain we wi...   Jan 19 2006, 04:44 AM
mystick   this part i agree too in respect to what i have c...   Jan 19 2006, 06:27 AM
Zahaqiel   Sort of. This is the view of reincarnation if you...   Jan 19 2006, 07:11 AM
mystick   there also a point that my mind brought out follow...   Jan 19 2006, 10:59 AM
Zahaqiel   Not necessarily. There are plenty of logical expl...   Jan 19 2006, 12:12 PM
mystick   Theres something more i would like to append to th...   Jan 31 2006, 05:59 AM
mystick   Hi bloodwolf666, Well I won’t be biased by a...   Feb 25 2006, 10:43 PM
Angalor   So you're asking why if there are such benevol...   May 16 2006, 08:17 PM
smasher666   Yes there are Angels and they do protect. Bad s@#...   Jul 5 2006, 01:50 AM

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