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post Nov 18 2004, 04:55 PM
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do they use the same way or is one better than the other? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


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post Jan 31 2006, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE(Rakesh @ Jan 31 2006, 06:58 PM)
The stang was, I think, originally an instrument to catch snakes.

Which is rather fitting, with the symbollic connection of snakes with the astral.


This may be a very generous request in the witchcraft forums, but could we sometimes use a little less w--can (i dont want to name it) terminology?

The idea behind it being "knife sounds too damn ordinary, lets use an old french word and make it sound cooler and call it athame", it truly makes ones blood boil.

Of note, steel knives of the CM-ripoff athameish shape and design were unheard off in ancient celtic culture.

Heres a taste of actual celtic knives:



The first one is guessed to be a ritual instrument (due to a very uncommon unique design).
The other is basically a kitchen knife (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

First I do believe stang is a word for pole. They were more than likely early pitchfork, I feel they are like a swiss army knife for energy focus, without having to carry an athame, wand, and alter. Mine is made of an Ash tree and has a natural fork at the top and is very much a reminder of the Greenman for me.

Second I made my own Athame,(blade handle the whole works) and can call it anything I want ot call it. I dont care if you put negative spin on something that is discriptive. I call it an athame because it is used only in magick for evoking/invoking, and not for slicing vegatibles!

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Of note, steel knives of the CM-ripoff athameish shape and design were unheard off in ancient celtic culture.


I dont think it was a rip off of any kind, my magick in itself is a culmination of different ideas. Here is an ancient Celtic athame!

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Sage of the ages   wand or staff   Nov 18 2004, 04:55 PM
| Kinjo   IMO, that will dependent entirely on your preferen...   Nov 18 2004, 06:12 PM
R3QuI3M   Either 1 is fine as long as u like it. :)   Mar 4 2005, 03:36 AM
puppetmaster   Wands are better for small places and easier to st...   Mar 23 2005, 06:01 PM
Rin Daemoko   Yes, they virtually have the same use. There is a ...   Mar 25 2005, 01:08 PM
Sage of the ages   thanks Rin. the definitions helped a lot :ok: :D   Mar 29 2005, 02:40 PM
Anja   Some groups and traditios have slightly different ...   Jun 9 2005, 02:29 AM
Acid09   I prefere the staff because its multi-functional. ...   Jun 17 2005, 03:00 PM
wisdomsbane   the biggest difference between wands and staves as...   Jun 17 2005, 07:37 PM
UniOne   I like the staff better than the wand... because s...   Jun 20 2005, 10:09 AM
Rin Daemoko   I also prefer the staff to the wand. It's easi...   Jun 21 2005, 06:13 AM
fleecileez   I have a wand i bought in glastonbury but i dont k...   Jun 21 2005, 02:44 PM
Acid09   There are many techniques. But consecrating just m...   Jun 24 2005, 03:37 PM
gavriel   Dont forget Stangs. These are staves with a forked...   Sep 5 2005, 02:37 AM
Vishwas   I am a newbie, & still am trying to learn more...   Oct 31 2005, 05:15 AM
bym   Greetings! The best ones are the ones that we ...   Oct 31 2005, 10:46 AM
Leanbh   I make all my tools, my first one was a Stang, be...   Jan 31 2006, 02:20 PM
Rakesh   The stang was, I think, originally an instrument t...   Jan 31 2006, 05:58 PM
Rakesh   I think its great that you made your own rather ...   Feb 1 2006, 06:06 AM
bym   Greetings! I would like this discussion to sta...   Feb 1 2006, 06:18 AM
esoterica   whether store-bought or handmade, a wand or staff ...   Feb 1 2006, 10:45 AM
Oath   Does anyone know if there is a difference and if s...   Feb 4 2006, 08:20 AM
The White Chaos   I can see myself using both, infact I'm workin...   Apr 21 2006, 03:10 AM
Forest Elf   Well, I prefer a hand-crafted wand myself. Try car...   Apr 24 2006, 04:12 PM
The White Chaos   Yes it does get the job done in a manner of speaki...   Apr 25 2006, 04:18 AM
Sojrn   I have both a wand and staff as are both used on a...   May 21 2006, 02:38 PM
Khenti_Amenti   As somone pinted out the Staff touches the ground....   Jun 5 2006, 06:21 AM
osiris1313   Well I prefer a Wand it is easier to wield. in som...   Jun 11 2006, 12:58 AM
MouseBrat2006   Well I prefer a Wand it is easier to wield. in som...   Aug 13 2006, 10:37 AM
smasher666   do they use the same way or is one better than the...   Jun 11 2006, 02:48 AM
Eroscupidonamor   Does anyone know a tradition of consacrating a sta...   Aug 16 2006, 07:45 AM
Ashnook   Elemental tools of the western tradition aside, th...   Aug 16 2006, 05:39 PM
Eroscupidonamor   Ashnook,I saw that you were using some kind of sta...   Aug 16 2006, 07:11 PM
Saul de Plume   I like the Stag idea :D!! What if I have ...   Nov 12 2006, 02:15 AM

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