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post Feb 4 2006, 11:43 PM
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Hi all,
there's something quite interesting that has been in my mind since recent times,especially after having read a lot of items..
Do the Gods/Demons etc that one summons by evocation rituals/sadhanas(mantras)/prayer etc really exist or instead are they the manifestation of the power of the mind....
Like for example if you recite a mantra to call a deity,isnt it that you are telling your subconsious what you need.. the subconsious then with the help of the powers given to mankind by the "ultimate source" creates the deity and you get to master the powers that you request for???

Some points to support this:
1)Normally the deity comes in the form that you visualise and pray(created by the mind)!!!
2)there are also entities that never existed but which someone can create himself according to his mind
3)Different religions have different Gods that they pray and they have different theories on the creation of universe or planet earth itself... There cant be various ways by which the world was created but still all god in the various religions can be evoked!!!! Can it finally come to the point that it is eventually the determination and power of the human mind itself who creates all???
4)Lots is said on Gods/demons/angels/ etc who have their roles on mankind's evolution, like Gods are here to help those who are in need etc etc, but still theres lots of crimes and most unimaginable ones that get committed without any interference.... But in some cases, we can say that miracles occur and people are saved by Jesus or any other entity.... However cant it be just the all is in the power of the human mind??? if someone is being agressed, his mind can be in such a state to create a being to save him and that being will be in the form of a savior e.g Jesus/ archangel Michael.... Even in a evocation, if someone calls a spirit, the manifestation of the spirit also depends on the power of mind of the person... I think that a person with a powerful mind will be able to see the spirit and a less powerful one will be only able to feel the presence or hear it...


Well, all this is a derivation of my mind and need not be true... But still if anyone finds this thread interesting, please do reply to it with your views and what you believe to be true...

as a frnd here recently told:
I am God and God is me; I am Satan and Satan is me...


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post Feb 6 2006, 05:05 AM
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Its easier to look at fellow humans first.

Do you exist as a manifestation of my mind, or do you really exist?

Most would agree that you really exist outside of my mind, and that you are in effect an entity on your own. I will agree to that to, because it seems most logical.

But then, what do i know about you? What i see and know about you is myself. It is inside my own mind that i deal with you. Your characteristics exist inside my mind, and may not be the same as your true self. Still, i may deal with you on these forums, even i was completely wrong about my personal manifestation about you.

The same can be said of gods and entities. I believe they exist as both manifestations and as single entities at the same time. It is impossible to evoke a deity without first generating a manifestation inside your mind. And it is impossible to generate a manifestation without evoking a deity.

Especially the second rule may seem strange. What about egregores, and servitors. Well, upon manifestating them they begin to exist in real life. Then both the manifestation and the real servitor exist and we are back to the above paragraph.

In the end as we are all the same, I am god, I am satan, I am you. we are just summoning or evoking ourselves, as a single deity. That is why it works so well. The more you realise this, the more you are able to accomplish in terms of evoking.

You can see it as the consious evoking parts of the subconsiosu of the subconsious. A level deeper even... That level truly does exist as seperate from us, and at a deeper level it becomes even denser, until it all boils down to one source, where we all are more or less the same. This is called Kether on the tree of life, tao in taoism, enlightenment, etc...

So all your ideas where true at the same time.


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