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GaiusOctavian
post Nov 16 2005, 10:22 AM
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Firstly, I'd like to ask if anyone has read, and approves the book "Enochian Magic For Beginners" By Donald Tyson since I'd like to start reading on enochian magic. Second, Reffering to the Enochian in the back of the mathers version of the goetia, and the Schemhamephorash angels in "The Book Of Solomons Magick", if one was to evoke one of the angels, would one use the streamline goetic setup, with the basic goetic order of rituals with the enochian conjurations in the back of the mathers goetia, or would one need to use more of an Enochian apporach? Pardon if by any chance this is all answered in other topics, I didn't see, and feel free to lock this up if it is, but if not any answers would be appreciated.

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ChaosCrowley
post Feb 20 2006, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE(Athena @ Feb 20 2006, 12:56 PM)
It does seem to be a pretty complete system, well as complete as the GD is for example...
However the problem isn't that Dee didn't have time to complete it,t he problem is that many diarynotes were used to wrap fish and were burned in the fire (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) So who knows what is missing and what isn't! Good thing the EEs are very talkative

This may be off topic but I'll disagree with this part.
1. Yes many parts of the diary was lost.
2. What is present has as much depth and usually much more than any other system

This transmissions were not completed though. I consider any Angelic interaction Dee has obtained to be part of the Enochian system.

summarizing
On July 09,1607
Raphael appears and tells Dee that if he undertakes a long journey he will receive the secrets of the Philosophers Stone and the book of St. Dunistan[?]. He spends the next few weeks planning and dies within a few months. That to me seems not enough time to receive it.

The fact that Kelly and him had slowed down work but not ended it when they have the wife-swap incident seems to cause some problems too.
After this he uses his son and seems to try rent a scryer so it seems he still had things he wanted to get done.

This doesn't negate the fact that the system is immense, I don't beleive their are "holes" as some have declared. But to receive the last books he is meant to go to Basilae or germany (can't remember, at work) so that points to incomplete.


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