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Sabazel
post Feb 27 2006, 07:21 AM
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Hey everyone,

Not to long ago I had a discussion about "The meaning of Life". Suddenly it went into a totally different direction concerning entities. We started talking about Eggregores, Servitors and Gods. I've gotten an interesting idea, but I feel on a shallow level that this is a flawed idea. Still I can't let go of it so I shall explain it and see what others think of it.

First my definitions.
An Eggregore gains conciounce and "life" through a group of people. This group will focus their ideas and energies onto one concept. They will give it personality traits, behaviour, morals but not a physical appearance to relate to it.

A Servitor is created by one individual or group. The servitor is a being with a set amount of traits and morals granted by the creator(s). It also has a defined shape and appearance to which everyone can relate to it.


When starting about gods I made the difference between the Christian God/Satan as well as ancient mythological Gods/Godesses. As I see it there is the Source (the All) and from this all came to be, including us. We however created the Gods that we worship, both the positive as the negative ones. Most mythological gods were created in order to express our lack of knowledge towards nature and life itself.

In another thread on these boards I also read the question "what if i use a selfmade being as a powersource, would it work just as well as worshipping a god?".

I see it that most religious icons are eggregores. Many people over the world having the same idea of what God, Satan or the prophet Mohammed stand for and their personality traits are so the speak. But no one has an idea what they look like. People focussing on the ideals on these beings, for so many generations, would generate quite a large pool of energy and thus the Eggregore (Gods) grow over time in power. This is why a self made entity would be weaker in power and aid because it has a lot less time and energy put into it.

People, for so many centuries and with so many at once, could cause great changes in the world. What if we stopped worshipping gods and such and would focus together on the world problems instead?

Just some non-worked out ramblings...


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post Mar 2 2006, 03:35 AM
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Well I've spend some more thought on it. Perhaps I can make it a bit easier to understand at this time.

Often I delve into many directions/paths of life and see many different systems talking about one topic. I'm not someone who tries to find the one-way-truism but instead try to see the underlying truth of all systems in comparison of one another.

So to with religion/myth and the godly deities presented in them. What can explain that there are so many gods and not one is the one true god? When you travel the astral realms you often hear people refer to the energies that are presenting themselves to the individual, that the individual interpetates it as said being (an angel, arch angel, god whatever). Yet they are energetic beings and nothing more, energy which the mind converts to an image that your brain can understand.

Gods are the same. There is the all, the source....but gods are just created by man. Many people over the history of time created concepts to explain natural events or psychological events which they could not understand. God, Satan and more were made this way. But how come "miracles" and "magical support" take place when you ask said being for aid? Next to that a godly deity, cept for the mythological ones, contain no physical representation. Thus many people have different physical views of what "god" or "satan" looks like, and same goes for many other archetypical beings used.

1. Energetical beings present themselves to you during invokations/evocations etc. But their form in which they show themselves to you is not their real form. It is just one you can comprehend.
2. Gods and such are nothing but pools of energy to which people over time have added their energies to by form of prayer and such. However you can utilize the energy in the pool for "miracles" to happen. (eggregores)
3. mythological godly deities are different since they often do have physical imagery that everyone automatically connects with not to mention the personality traits one such being should have. You could say an advanced Servitor to serve a collective society instead of one "mage".


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