Eggregore, Servitor and Gods Options

Hey everyone,

Not to long ago I had a discussion about "The meaning of Life". Suddenly it went into a totally different direction concerning entities. We started talking about Eggregores, Servitors and Gods. I've gotten an interesting idea, but I feel on a shallow level that this is a flawed idea. Still I can't let go of it so I shall explain it and see what others think of it.

First my definitions.
An Eggregore gains conciounce and "life" through a group of people. This group will focus their ideas and energies onto one concept. They will give it personality traits, behaviour, morals but not a physical appearance to relate to it.

A Servitor is created by one individual or group. The servitor is a being with a set amount of traits and morals granted by the creator(s). It also has a defined shape and appearance to which everyone can relate to it.


When starting about gods I made the difference between the Christian God/Satan as well as ancient mythological Gods/Godesses. As I see it there is the Source (the All) and from this all came to be, including us. We however created the Gods that we worship, both the positive as the negative ones. Most mythological gods were created in order to express our lack of knowledge towards nature and life itself.

In another thread on these boards I also read the question "what if i use a selfmade being as a powersource, would it work just as well as worshipping a god?".

I see it that most religious icons are eggregores. Many people over the world having the same idea of what God, Satan or the prophet Mohammed stand for and their personality traits are so the speak. But no one has an idea what they look like. People focussing on the ideals on these beings, for so many generations, would generate quite a large pool of energy and thus the Eggregore (Gods) grow over time in power. This is why a self made entity would be weaker in power and aid because it has a lot less time and energy put into it.

People, for so many centuries and with so many at once, could cause great changes in the world. What if we stopped worshipping gods and such and would focus together on the world problems instead?

Just some non-worked out ramblings...

Well I'll agree that gods can fit into the category of egregores. I don't really agree that they are more powerful because more people put energy into it.

It depends on what you hope to acheive. Perhaps in sheer amount of shared belief and influence they contain more "power". Because the image and the ideas connected with them, become more defined it confines them to certain ideas within society.

It would be difficult (for myself at least) to call upon Jesus to rain down wrath upon someone if I had a need to do so. A self-created deity offers flexibility since it is only shaped by your own ideas.

Outside influences have much less of an impact on a personal creation. In the Western world the egregore of Allah is taking a beating right now as YHWH probably is in Iran.

While we can attempt to avoid or rationalize these judgments they still have some affect to the shared "gods" of the world. Since my own personal servitors are unknown to the world I needn't worry about someone else influencing their representation. This adds both stability and usefulness.

For myself, although less in sheer power the lack of public energy going into a thoughtforms creation, while simultaneously defining it is an advantage.

But isn't it so that an eggregore grows stronger as you have it around for a longer period of time in which you spend a lot of time and energy in making it? And wouldn't it be logical to assume that the eggregore would grow stronger energetically if you kept spending more attention to it and such? This is why I think that the eggregore of God/Satan/Allah are more powerfull since they have been around for longer and so many people were part of it's creation and still are "feeding" it so the speak. And wouldn't it have gotten strong enough that if you "pray" to it that it can make magick work for you instead?

I do see and agree on the point of influencing the eggregore and the lack of stability.