Eggregore, Servitor and Gods Options

Hey everyone,

Not to long ago I had a discussion about "The meaning of Life". Suddenly it went into a totally different direction concerning entities. We started talking about Eggregores, Servitors and Gods. I've gotten an interesting idea, but I feel on a shallow level that this is a flawed idea. Still I can't let go of it so I shall explain it and see what others think of it.

First my definitions.
An Eggregore gains conciounce and "life" through a group of people. This group will focus their ideas and energies onto one concept. They will give it personality traits, behaviour, morals but not a physical appearance to relate to it.

A Servitor is created by one individual or group. The servitor is a being with a set amount of traits and morals granted by the creator(s). It also has a defined shape and appearance to which everyone can relate to it.


When starting about gods I made the difference between the Christian God/Satan as well as ancient mythological Gods/Godesses. As I see it there is the Source (the All) and from this all came to be, including us. We however created the Gods that we worship, both the positive as the negative ones. Most mythological gods were created in order to express our lack of knowledge towards nature and life itself.

In another thread on these boards I also read the question "what if i use a selfmade being as a powersource, would it work just as well as worshipping a god?".

I see it that most religious icons are eggregores. Many people over the world having the same idea of what God, Satan or the prophet Mohammed stand for and their personality traits are so the speak. But no one has an idea what they look like. People focussing on the ideals on these beings, for so many generations, would generate quite a large pool of energy and thus the Eggregore (Gods) grow over time in power. This is why a self made entity would be weaker in power and aid because it has a lot less time and energy put into it.

People, for so many centuries and with so many at once, could cause great changes in the world. What if we stopped worshipping gods and such and would focus together on the world problems instead?

Just some non-worked out ramblings...

But isn't it so that an eggregore grows stronger as you have it around for a longer period of time in which you spend a lot of time and energy in making it? And wouldn't it be logical to assume that the eggregore would grow stronger energetically if you kept spending more attention to it and such? This is why I think that the eggregore of God/Satan/Allah are more powerfull since they have been around for longer and so many people were part of it's creation and still are "feeding" it so the speak. And wouldn't it have gotten strong enough that if you "pray" to it that it can make magick work for you instead?

We have to decide on some terminology here. Typically a personally created entity is described as a servitor. The energy it is fed comes from a very small group or in my point of view one person. Eventually it grows to the point where many people are feeding it. Now it becomes an egregore. It's not perfect terminolgy but it keeps the ideas on track of whether it is being "fed" from multiple sources or an individual..

So in response to wouldn't it have gotten strong enough that if you "pray"....etc

Yes. A personal servitor and your examples of gods are both powerful enough to get things done. From a sheer point of power, since the gods you list are already established so they have an already established power base. A properly created servitor can be much more effective in terms of what you want to accomplish. Will you have to take time and energy to feed it? Yes.

Once more people are involved it will grow much faster but we aren't able to shape it's development as much.

The gods you listed are indeed powerful in terms of the sheer amount of people continually "feeding" them. They have been around longer and have more energy fed to them. But who would I pray to when I require a difficult to acquire tome? A self-created servitor can much more efficiently perform this task and work within the situation as I deem it necessary.

A nuclear bomb doesn't help me when I need to crack open a beer.

I'm still a little confused. When you ask "wouldn't it have gotten strong enough that if you 'pray' to it that it can make magick work for you instead." Are you referring to a personally created sevitor? Or an already established egregore?

In any case the answer is yes.