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post Feb 22 2006, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(A_Smoking_Fox @ Feb 22 2006, 04:46 PM) *
What is dualism.


When we have established what we think dualism is, A_Smoking_Fox would like to branch off into and discuss different parts which will probably go into a new thread.

QUOTE(A_Smoking_Fox @ Feb 22 2006, 04:46 PM) *
Which part of dualism are we interested to explore in this topic.


So any offers?

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post Mar 2 2006, 03:45 AM
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So, could we say that we want to explore the relativity (or difference or connection) between pairs of thoughts or things or states that mind interprets as opposite and are not described by scientific definitions in such a way that the use of the mental description carried no information that could not be expressed without it?
For example, what is hot or cold depends on my perception at the moment, but what is black or white is defined very specifically by science and one could substitute these last terms by their scientific definitions and say exactly the same thing.

Yes, thats where i want to go exactly.

As far as the defenition of the mind goes. As long as we can limit what the the mind does it is good enough. Just how it does this is not so important for our discussion, and it would lead us, as you say, of topic.
Your defenition is better suited for this discussion than mine, i sometimes get to magical in these things, wich leaves to many options open for a decent discussion.
I am willing to go then with this defenition.

The mind is a non-physical phenomenon, partly identified with, and partly distinguished from the soul that is manifested in thought, perception, self-consciousness, emotion, will, memory, imagination and reaction to the environment.


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post Mar 2 2006, 09:00 PM
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To me, dualism references four different kinds of two-fold dynamics:



1. dichotomy: x / not-x

-- where x and not-x are not the same

-- where x and not-x can be, but are not necessarily, poles of a polarity, antithetical with each other, or complements


2. polarity: x / y

-- where x is not-y, and y is not-x

-- where x and y can be, but are not necessarily, antithetical and/or complements

-- where x and y are the two diametrical extremities along a continuum of combinational gradiations from one to the other


3. antithesis: (x vs. y) and (y vs. x)

-- where x is not-y, and y is not-x

-- where x and y can be, but are not necessarily, poles of a polarity

-- where x either negates (or attempts to negate) y

-- where y either negates (or attempts to negate) x


4. complementarity: x and y

-- where x is not-y, and y is not-x

-- where x and y can be, but are not necessarily, poles of a polarity

-- where x and y can be, but are not necessarily, antitheticals

-- where x has that which y is lacking, and y has that which x is lacking, such that when x and y integrate together through relationship they complete each other.



ALthough I associate all four of those two-fold dynamics with the general term "duality," - when exactness is required, I use whatever specific term amongst those four is accurate for explaining the appropriate two-fold dynamic being discussed.

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Radiant Star   What is Dualism - courtesy of A_Smoking_fox   Feb 22 2006, 11:03 AM
alia   Dualism is the theory that considers reality, or a...   Feb 23 2006, 07:20 PM
esoterica   Dualism is the theory that considers reality, or a...   Feb 24 2006, 08:50 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   all lovely ideas. But perhaps a bit to specific? W...   Feb 24 2006, 02:15 PM
alia   I agree about “reality” being an inappropriate ter...   Feb 25 2006, 09:27 AM
Alafair   P.S. I don’t like the “part of it” description, bu...   Feb 25 2006, 02:56 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   Nice, good thinking, but its still lacking a lit...   Feb 25 2006, 08:17 PM
esoterica   (deletable) definition of duality and mind - Leib...   Feb 26 2006, 02:46 PM
alia   I have no problem with not mentioning the whole ph...   Feb 27 2006, 03:22 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   Alia, i like your style. Very good reasoning, perh...   Feb 27 2006, 05:28 PM
alia   So, could we say that we want to explore the relat...   Mar 1 2006, 07:32 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   praxis, work with us a little. We have posted a de...   Mar 3 2006, 08:53 AM
Praxis   ‘Fox, I am approaching working with you a little o...   Mar 3 2006, 09:46 AM
alia   Well, what we were to explore and the definition w...   Mar 3 2006, 04:10 PM
Praxis   Well, 'Fox - I just re-read the entire thread ...   Mar 3 2006, 09:18 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   now you have made your point clear i get the pictu...   Mar 3 2006, 07:22 PM
alia   I’ll answer the question about why the specific ph...   Mar 4 2006, 10:41 AM
Praxis   Alia, I have been considering this for a couple of...   Mar 5 2006, 06:30 PM
alia   If the two examined terms (x and y) can be reduced...   Mar 6 2006, 07:34 PM
Praxis   Two variables originating from the same source co...   Mar 8 2006, 07:47 PM
alia   Yes, one source can have two effects which will be...   Mar 9 2006, 05:32 PM
Praxis   Okay, alia - I am cool with just using "eleme...   Mar 23 2006, 03:46 PM
alia   Praxis, I was referring to the last definition you...   Mar 23 2006, 06:47 PM

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