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post Feb 22 2006, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(A_Smoking_Fox @ Feb 22 2006, 04:46 PM) *
What is dualism.


When we have established what we think dualism is, A_Smoking_Fox would like to branch off into and discuss different parts which will probably go into a new thread.

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Which part of dualism are we interested to explore in this topic.


So any offers?

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post Mar 3 2006, 04:10 PM
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Well, what we were to explore and the definition was changing gradually, as we need to end up with one definition, which we would agree that express what dualism is for us.

What we was saying to discus is if x and y thoughts, or things, or states, which mind considers dualistic could be one thought, or thing, or state and their duality an illusion of our mind, or not (if it isn’t an illusion). X and y described, exactly, by scientific definitions excluded of topic.

We probably will need to use references to substantial, property and predicate dualism, as well as the way our mind works, amongst other approaches that might occur in the process of our exploration, but the topic is none of them.

We maybe could say that we want to debate the dualism itself, in the specific area (and only in it) defined and restricted by the topic, and see where it will lead us.

But we need to reach a definition of dualism with which we are all to agree first.

I use your model to classify different dualistic terms, and it end ended up, with it forming a little bit differently for me:

Contradictory
1. dichotomy: x / not-x
2. polarity: x / y
3. antithesis: (x vs. y) and (y vs. x)

Complementary
1. dichotomy: x / not-x
2. polarity: x / y
3. antithesis: (x vs. y) and (y vs. x)

I think that any dichotomy (x / not-x), or polarity (x / y), or antithesis: [(x vs. y) and (y vs. x)], could be seen as complementary, or a contradictory and whether someone classifies two terms as one or the other (complementary, or a contradictory), depends on his philosophy and general approach of life.
It could be helpful to have a structural model for the dualistic terms to refer to. Maybe we could change it in a way that we all find it acceptable and include it in the definition?
But Praxis, we still need your definition of dualism. As A Smoking Fox suggested, modify the definition that we had reached some post above, or change it completely, just provide us with the reasons why you are not agreeing with it, as it will be helpful in order to conclude to a definition acceptable by all of us. Or, simply let us know if it is acceptable by you as it is.

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Radiant Star   What is Dualism - courtesy of A_Smoking_fox   Feb 22 2006, 11:03 AM
alia   Dualism is the theory that considers reality, or a...   Feb 23 2006, 07:20 PM
esoterica   Dualism is the theory that considers reality, or a...   Feb 24 2006, 08:50 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   all lovely ideas. But perhaps a bit to specific? W...   Feb 24 2006, 02:15 PM
alia   I agree about “reality” being an inappropriate ter...   Feb 25 2006, 09:27 AM
Alafair   P.S. I don’t like the “part of it” description, bu...   Feb 25 2006, 02:56 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   Nice, good thinking, but its still lacking a lit...   Feb 25 2006, 08:17 PM
esoterica   (deletable) definition of duality and mind - Leib...   Feb 26 2006, 02:46 PM
alia   I have no problem with not mentioning the whole ph...   Feb 27 2006, 03:22 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   Alia, i like your style. Very good reasoning, perh...   Feb 27 2006, 05:28 PM
alia   So, could we say that we want to explore the relat...   Mar 1 2006, 07:32 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   Yes, thats where i want to go exactly. As far as...   Mar 2 2006, 03:45 AM
Praxis   To me, dualism references four different kinds o...   Mar 2 2006, 09:00 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   praxis, work with us a little. We have posted a de...   Mar 3 2006, 08:53 AM
Praxis   ‘Fox, I am approaching working with you a little o...   Mar 3 2006, 09:46 AM
Praxis   Well, 'Fox - I just re-read the entire thread ...   Mar 3 2006, 09:18 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   now you have made your point clear i get the pictu...   Mar 3 2006, 07:22 PM
alia   I’ll answer the question about why the specific ph...   Mar 4 2006, 10:41 AM
Praxis   Alia, I have been considering this for a couple of...   Mar 5 2006, 06:30 PM
alia   If the two examined terms (x and y) can be reduced...   Mar 6 2006, 07:34 PM
Praxis   Two variables originating from the same source co...   Mar 8 2006, 07:47 PM
alia   Yes, one source can have two effects which will be...   Mar 9 2006, 05:32 PM
Praxis   Okay, alia - I am cool with just using "eleme...   Mar 23 2006, 03:46 PM
alia   Praxis, I was referring to the last definition you...   Mar 23 2006, 06:47 PM

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