powers of subconcious, concept of god and demons Options

Hi all,
there's something quite interesting that has been in my mind since recent times,especially after having read a lot of items..
Do the Gods/Demons etc that one summons by evocation rituals/sadhanas(mantras)/prayer etc really exist or instead are they the manifestation of the power of the mind....
Like for example if you recite a mantra to call a deity,isnt it that you are telling your subconsious what you need.. the subconsious then with the help of the powers given to mankind by the "ultimate source" creates the deity and you get to master the powers that you request for???

Some points to support this:
1)Normally the deity comes in the form that you visualise and pray(created by the mind)!!!
2)there are also entities that never existed but which someone can create himself according to his mind
3)Different religions have different Gods that they pray and they have different theories on the creation of universe or planet earth itself... There cant be various ways by which the world was created but still all god in the various religions can be evoked!!!! Can it finally come to the point that it is eventually the determination and power of the human mind itself who creates all???
4)Lots is said on Gods/demons/angels/ etc who have their roles on mankind's evolution, like Gods are here to help those who are in need etc etc, but still theres lots of crimes and most unimaginable ones that get committed without any interference.... But in some cases, we can say that miracles occur and people are saved by Jesus or any other entity.... However cant it be just the all is in the power of the human mind??? if someone is being agressed, his mind can be in such a state to create a being to save him and that being will be in the form of a savior e.g Jesus/ archangel Michael.... Even in a evocation, if someone calls a spirit, the manifestation of the spirit also depends on the power of mind of the person... I think that a person with a powerful mind will be able to see the spirit and a less powerful one will be only able to feel the presence or hear it...


Well, all this is a derivation of my mind and need not be true... But still if anyone finds this thread interesting, please do reply to it with your views and what you believe to be true...

as a frnd here recently told:
I am God and God is me; I am Satan and Satan is me...

I feel it is possible to fool the mind into accepting that a deity has been summoned certainly . In our alchemy circle a deity is humbly invoked and we see and hear it concurrently . We learn their energy signatures , we confirm what they say with esoteric texts and in time learn to trust what is revealed to us that we cannot confirm in existing texts . If we all see and hear the same communications why should we hold it suspect any more than what we see and hear on the earthly plane ?

If we all see and hear the same communications why should we hold it suspect any more than what we see and hear on the earthly plane ?

Yes compared with some of the lies and corruption we hear on the earth plane, why indeed should we doubt their existence.

Excellent post Aunt Clair, so well put. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ac42.gif)

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