The underworld, no not hell Options

Its more of a magical farie world. You find doors on the ground when meditating out of body and open them... yeah anyone do this?

is there any "underworld" according to your cosmology?

i.e. is there any plane "beneath" the physical?

Or is the physical plane the lowest of the planes?

From my own experiences I am aware there is a realm beneath the physical and there is also a realm within the physical .... the latter being perhaps a parallel realm of a realm which shares the same space as the physical.

In truth, all things appear to be possible. It is down to the magician's own belief system as to the existence of an underworld .... as for the 14 planes so kindly reproduced by Aunt Clair I have no recollection or experience of them (not in that format anyway)....I've read of these places before, but in my own travels to the realms no entity has ever stated 'you are in realm 9 which is the blue lodge etc etc ....

The realms just ARE. They exist out there as we exist here. They are as real and they can be visited. I've found when I enter one such realm this current physical vehicle is left behind and I am within another vehicle which matches the vibration of the different realm.

I am very well aware of the Underworld ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/1238.gif) ... it has been visited by myself many many times since I was a child .... however I find the experiences of the underworld are varied with numerous entities to meet and numerous places to visit. Rarely, however, has an entity proclaimed 'this is the Underworld' .... to determine implicitly you have entered the underworld it is best to make passage through an established entry point which is traditionally linked with being a doorway to the Underworld.

The best place for such (for me anyway) is Glastonbury Tor .... hundreds of visits there in the last three decades have brought me to the Underworld ... and interplay with traditional little people, faeries and the like .... but the danger here is that the appearance of such beings are governed/generated by my own mind and by the archetypal programming of the human race!!!

An entity doesn't have to appear Faerie-like to be Faerie .... there are instances I've met with Faerie folk over here in New Zealand and the being has appeared human!!

Another good place is Pirongia Mountain here in New Zealand!

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This post has been edited by Mr_Merlin: Mar 8 2006, 09:42 PM

Thanks for the responses.

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If I were to craft a quick and simple little cosmology incorporating The Underworld, it would go something like this:

The Overworld: The realm of intuitive daemons.

The Midworld: The realm between Overworld and Underworld where spirits incarnating bodies (that have intuition and instinct) endeavor both to harmonize together their intuitions and instincts - and to relate with one another together in compounded interpersonal harmony based upon daemonic dynamics. The Midworld is the level within which your physical body is reading these words. Midworld Mages can intensify the harmony of their character, and the harmony of their relationships, by consciously working with daemons from Overworld and Underworld.

The Underworld: The realm of instinctive daemons.