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post Jan 10 2006, 01:51 PM
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Is there such thing as ethical spell casting?
I repeatedly read people wrote about how they do not want to mess with other people's free will (ie. love spell) and I found this to be in conflict with their (our) daily behaviours. We persuade, seduce, entice people daily to bend and fulfill our desires by psychological means, consciously or unconsciously. If seen from this particular perspective, I honestly see nothing wrong with bend over/coercive spell for example (IMG:style_emoticons/default/8.gif)


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post Mar 9 2006, 06:04 AM
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Spells cast on one's self would hardly be unethical for the most part (of course, that excludes the glamours and whatnot).

I think the main difference is that an enchantment causes you to have power over someone, while physical action still leaves the other person choice. Plus it removes the necessity for actually interacting with the person in their normal state - making things "easier" for you, which is not necessarily a good thing in a cosmic-karmic sense.


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post Mar 9 2006, 06:41 AM
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QUOTE(Zahaqiel @ Mar 9 2006, 07:04 PM) *
I think the main difference is that an enchantment causes you to have power over someone, while physical action still leaves the other person choice. Plus it removes the necessity for actually interacting with the person in their normal state - making things "easier" for you, which is not necessarily a good thing in a cosmic-karmic sense.

There's some "complex physical actions" we can do which grant us power over the other person, willingly or not, conscious or subconsciously:

- Someone put a gun on your head (IMG:style_emoticons/default/13.gif)

- If "A" has more money, fame, connections, looks, character and personality than "B'. Here "B" still has a choice and free will but it is usually biased based on the weight of personal choices/influences "A" has expend on "B".

- Mind games, PsyOp type of operations, manipulation of the superficials, mixtures of perspectives, truth and lies. This may or may not include money, fame and other wordly power as above. Look at influencial persons in the past that has been the Head of States, Kings, Advertisers, Entreprenuers, Philosophers, Womanizers like Cassanova and Don Juan etc. They all work on their target's subconsicous - using the illusions of the logic and conscious. Like playing a human chess, they (or we!) can direct people's actions and thoughts through strategy, tactics, subtle gestures and boldness.

We manipulate and deceive all the time since our childhood and I'm sure you've heard this line from somewhere else and can elaborate this by yourself (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

People live in their own world... their own illusions of what they perceive from the "real" world... and they tend to be influenced and directed (controlled) by the person who can understand AND reflect "their world" ie. understanding how they think, taste, habits and preferrences.

When we create a strong rapport with the target, they will also think like us - like a mirror, thinking we are just like them and naturally will submit to our will, whether we orchestrate it or not - In esoteric perspective: understand (raise above) their vibrations, sync it into our own and we can manipulate it according to our will. It is not much difference than spell casting isn't it? Its just a matter of what path and means you want to do to achieve what you desire.


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