Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

 Elemental Interconnections
Praxis
post Aug 9 2005, 05:22 PM
Post #1


Mage
Group Icon
Posts: 214
Age: N/A
Gender: Male
Reputation: 2 pts




An aspect of the Enochian paradigm that I appreciate is how the elements are interconnected with each other. For example: water of earth; air of fire; earth of air; etc... To me, such interconnection enriches Enochian's elemental model.

However, I'm not clear about why a kind of elemental interconnection is included. Specifically - interconnections of the variety: earth of earth; water of water; air of air; etc...

I ask because while I comprehend that the interconnections for each element provide further insight regarding each element - yet, at this point, I don't comprehend how earth of earth is not simply earth, how water of water is not simply water, how air of air is not simply air, etc...

Explanations for why interconnections of that variety are included would be welcome.

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post


 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
Replies
AVP
post Aug 23 2005, 06:32 PM
Post #2


Neophyte
Group Icon
Posts: 19
Age: N/A
Reputation: none




While I am not an enochian practitioner per-se, I think I might be able to help shed some light on this issue for you...

The sub-elements aren't illustrating inter-connections... they are illustrating different qualities of the parent element. Each element as we experience them is actually a composite of its sub-elements... LOL this is harder to explain than I thought... Let me try to use an example...

There is a big difference between Fire of Earth and Earth of Fire. They deal with two entirely different elements (Earth and Fire respectively). The parent element (listed second) is the element you are working with, while the Sub-Element (listed first) is the particular aspect of the parent that you are focusing on.
Fire of Earth is dealing with the passionate, directive, powerful energies present in the element Earth.
Earth of Fire is dealing with the solid, steady, material, foundational energies present in the element of Fire.

Therefore when you are working with Fire of Fire for example... you are working with the most willful, passionate, direct, parts of the element of Fire... not necessarily just plain old Fire.

Hope this helped...

LVX
AVP


--------------------
www.hedjwer.sacred-magick.com/forum

user posted image

"I won't say the practice can't be dangerous. However, as with anything else that involves risk, it is really a matter of education and experience.

For example, electricians aren't dropping dead by the thousands- even though the forces they work with every day are *extremely* dangerous. Meanwhile, folks who fancy themselves handy with electricty and go playing around with it unawares often get burned badly."


-- Quoting Aaron Lecht concerning the grimoires

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Praxis
post Mar 14 2006, 09:40 AM
Post #3


Mage
Group Icon
Posts: 214
Age: N/A
Gender: Male
Reputation: 2 pts




Something seems semantically squirrelly to me about considering the elements as aspects (qualities) of each other. I will write about this using variables, so that the value associations involving the elements does not obscure the squirrelly part.

Five variables: A, B, C, D, and E

Where:

A has aspects B, C, D, and E
B has aspects A, C, D, and E
C has aspects A, B, D, and E
D has aspects A, B, C, and E
E has aspects A, B, C, and D

Now - just to use the first variable A as an example:

If B, C, D, and E are aspects of A -

Then how can B, C, D, and E themselves have A as an aspect of that which they are?

How can there be:

B of A,
C of A,
D of A, and
E of A

But then there be:

A of B,
A of C,
A of D, and
A of E

Given that B, C, D, and E are aspects of A?

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post



Closed
Topic Notes
Reply to this topicStart new topic

Collapse

Similar Topics

Topic Title Replies Topic Starter Views Last Action
Rulers and Elemental Associations? 4 AVP 6,712 Mar 10 2012, 07:03 PM
Last post by: QUAKESTARS
Elemental Magick 8 grim789 3,819 Jan 28 2012, 08:06 PM
Last post by: Draw
The Elemental Aura 1 Bluethorne 1,908 Nov 10 2011, 04:44 PM
Last post by: Praxis
Elemental Correspondences 3 VitalWinds 2,651 Aug 23 2010, 10:38 PM
Last post by: VitalWinds
Elemental Meditation 13 Ethereal Sight 5,611 Jul 15 2010, 09:03 AM
Last post by: esoterica

4 User(s) are reading this topic (4 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 

Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 24th November 2024 - 05:47 PM