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animus |
Oct 4 2005, 02:12 AM
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I was thikning of going to a ReiKi class this weekend, apparently it takes all weekend is the 1st stage of 3. But... is it worth it? I've heard alot about ReiKi and it's all good, but is it biased? Also it costs a hell of a lot, very expensive indeed! Any thoughts, is it worth the money? Is it something i can do with just a simple ritual (Middle Pillar anyone?) or is it really helpfull indeed even for those that do rituals on a weekly basis (or whatever) Thankfull for all replies. Now while you write, here's popy: (IMG: style_emoticons/default/mf_popeanim.gif) (edited to make it more of an appropriate thread about thougts about reiki for others that might want to read it or whatever (IMG: style_emoticons/default/offtopic.gif) ) This post has been edited by animus: Oct 9 2005, 02:16 PM
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Sabazel |
Mar 22 2006, 11:51 PM
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There is little about reiki I don't know about. Been a Reiki Master in the Shambala stream for quite some time. I don't follow the written words blindly, because a lot is sheepish copying of one another. Almost no one seems willing to experiment and found out what it truly is. The grades given by people I don't think of highly either, because having a master degree shows in no regard that you truly are a master...the real work starts after your initiation and you won't be a master untill you died. Past year I rarely to never use reiki any more, because I found something that is much more usefull and practical to myself.
I don't know anything about Qi'Gong. If that isn't needed then I'd be willing to help you with the text you've written.
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I recieved my first initiations from my stepmother so for me it all was for free. People say that they need to be initiated in a specific stream of energy before they can use Reiki. This I find nonsence because Usui never got initiated either, no one in the East ever does initiations, so where does the need in the West come from to give each other degrees and other ways to judge others? An initiation is nothing more then making a concious decision of taking the first step on a specific path in life and be dedicated to its teachings. You can teach yourself or from a so called Sensei (master).
Self studying is very rewarding I feel. You can read all the books about the topic, but if you read one or two about it you'll have read em all. Each and everyone of them, copies of one another filled with new-age beliefs which I personally puke upon. No one questions the teachings and blindly follows them while in fact those teachings are flawed once you put them into practice. The so called masters are people who are like blindless sheep that read something, get all the initiations and think they truly understand what they are doing. The quality of Masters these days is very very low.
When you look at how most initiations go is a joke. First there is the money involved. It is understandable that you need some form of compensation for the space you rent, the electricity you use, the time you put into preparation and a small profit for yourself. However one of the teachings in Western Reiki is the teaching of equivelant trade. One person gives you energy and you repay it with equal amount, where as energy in this case is a variable that can be replaced by Money, Time, Effort and other forms of energy. The amounts of money most people charge is beyond reasonable, especially if you take into consideration of what you recieve in return. Especially when you understand that these initiations are nothing then a psychological aid to allow you to make that concious first step. The poor amount of knowledge you gain during these seminars can be easily be improved by self studying and experimenting, just like how Usui and others do. Energy/Chi workers in the East never have initiations and such either.
I'm against large group initiations and prefer small group/personal ones. A large group can not be given the proper amount of attention and guidance which beginners need. Rapid initiations in short time spans allow people to gain all degrees easily and fast. These people gain the degree of Master without the theoretical know-how, let alone the proper amount of practical know-how. Sure there are exceptions, but the majority rushes it all and doesn''t know a thing. I don't distrust the secrecy but I do challenge the competence of most...which I started referring to as Charlatans. Then again my opinion about the New-Age stream isn't high to begin with. So I don't approach subjects like Reiki from the Love and Light nonsence that the New-Agers use...No I approach it from the point of view where it originated from...The East with Buddhistic influences.
Reiki isn't so much a secret order that uses secrecy and hates to share its symbols. About 22 symbols are given to the initiate to use during most of their workings. The remaining symbols aren't documented because those will come to you during the usage of reiki. I've used many symbols that aren't documented anywhere and I can't document them because they come at the time of need and dissapear just as fast. They are fleeting images that appear during the time of need unlike Sigils that can be used when YOU feel like it and can re-produce it at will as well. The workings however are quite similar. The symbol and sigil both allow you to focus your energy and will upon a certain task.
Many people see Reiki as a quick way to achieve enlightenment and such without undergoing the teachings that lead up to the "dark night of the soul" and other very learnfull moments in life.I see Reiki as a tool to help people awaken and learn the basics of energy work/magic. When people have learned and mastered Reiki they are ready to move on to the serious path of life to begin the REAL work so the speak.
There are many Reiki streams such as Usui, Tera Mai, Seichem, Shambala, Ogham and many more man made variations. This also shows that Reiki is not a one way-truism system. You initiate yourself by taking the first step and find out how to work with energy and such in your own way through own research and experience. I question the entire Chakra system used as well as the general teachings of reiki and how self-proclaimed masters interpetate them. It's quite easy to create your own Reiki system that you feel most comfortable with. The degrees of each teaching mean nothing and only excist in the Western Reiki Systems. Next to Reiki there are also other ways to reach the same such as through Yoga for excample. Reiki is one of many ways.
With Reiki you can get initiated into different streams. However it is said that only the last initiation will be active. Quite illogical if you do Shamballa 3 then Usui 1, then go from 1 Usui to master in Shamballa.
This post has been edited by Sabazel: Mar 23 2006, 04:39 AM
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