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post Feb 22 2006, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(A_Smoking_Fox @ Feb 22 2006, 04:46 PM) *
What is dualism.


When we have established what we think dualism is, A_Smoking_Fox would like to branch off into and discuss different parts which will probably go into a new thread.

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Which part of dualism are we interested to explore in this topic.


So any offers?

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post Mar 23 2006, 06:47 PM
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Praxis, I was referring to the last definition you had proposed. I should have made a quote in my previous post to show to what I am referring to.

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Dualism is a theory for explaining experiences according to two different states.

I mean, if we say just “different elements” without any other definition of the word “elements”, one could imagine two things, anything in general. Would you consider them a dualistic pair, if they are not dichotomy, polarity, antithesis, or complements? Or according to my proposition, if they are not contradictory or complimentary?

I used the word “opposition” to describe in general, the categorisation of dualism, about which we haven’t reached an agreement, yet. I didn’t use the categories that you or I had described, in order not to bring into the discussion something on which we haven’t argued yet, before reaching an agreement about the present matter.

What I was meaning is that I don't find different an appropriate term to for the definition of dualism, if it is not accompanied by some other definitions of the “elements” term. The definition that A Smoking Fox was proposing in his last post was covering that. But, then I think that since opposition presuppose difference the word “different” can be replaced by the terms consisting the categories of dualism (I am borrowing the word that A Smoking Fox used to refer to the description that you had made for the possibilities of two-fold dynamics, because the word "model" that I used maybe is not the right English word).

If we can agree on that, maybe we would discuss the categories of dualism that you and I had proposed in our previous posts, in order to find the word (probably words I think) to add to the definition? And I think that we also have to give definitions for these terms (whatever we agree them to be).

So maybe the definition that A Smoking Fox had proposed could be modified to the following form :

Dualism is the theory that considers our experience of some possible thought or thing or state, to consist a two-fold dynamic of …?........?…. elements, or categories of the element.

I placed “….?...?...” in the point, which, I think, we have to agree first in our categorization, in order to fill it, so, I am leaving it blank for the moment.

PS1. I liked very much the term “two-fold dynamics” so I merged it into the definition.

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Radiant Star   What is Dualism - courtesy of A_Smoking_fox   Feb 22 2006, 11:03 AM
alia   Dualism is the theory that considers reality, or a...   Feb 23 2006, 07:20 PM
esoterica   Dualism is the theory that considers reality, or a...   Feb 24 2006, 08:50 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   all lovely ideas. But perhaps a bit to specific? W...   Feb 24 2006, 02:15 PM
alia   I agree about “reality” being an inappropriate ter...   Feb 25 2006, 09:27 AM
Alafair   P.S. I don’t like the “part of it” description, bu...   Feb 25 2006, 02:56 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   Nice, good thinking, but its still lacking a lit...   Feb 25 2006, 08:17 PM
esoterica   (deletable) definition of duality and mind - Leib...   Feb 26 2006, 02:46 PM
alia   I have no problem with not mentioning the whole ph...   Feb 27 2006, 03:22 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   Alia, i like your style. Very good reasoning, perh...   Feb 27 2006, 05:28 PM
alia   So, could we say that we want to explore the relat...   Mar 1 2006, 07:32 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   Yes, thats where i want to go exactly. As far as...   Mar 2 2006, 03:45 AM
Praxis   To me, dualism references four different kinds o...   Mar 2 2006, 09:00 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   praxis, work with us a little. We have posted a de...   Mar 3 2006, 08:53 AM
Praxis   ‘Fox, I am approaching working with you a little o...   Mar 3 2006, 09:46 AM
alia   Well, what we were to explore and the definition w...   Mar 3 2006, 04:10 PM
Praxis   Well, 'Fox - I just re-read the entire thread ...   Mar 3 2006, 09:18 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   now you have made your point clear i get the pictu...   Mar 3 2006, 07:22 PM
alia   I’ll answer the question about why the specific ph...   Mar 4 2006, 10:41 AM
Praxis   Alia, I have been considering this for a couple of...   Mar 5 2006, 06:30 PM
alia   If the two examined terms (x and y) can be reduced...   Mar 6 2006, 07:34 PM
Praxis   Two variables originating from the same source co...   Mar 8 2006, 07:47 PM
alia   Yes, one source can have two effects which will be...   Mar 9 2006, 05:32 PM
Praxis   Okay, alia - I am cool with just using "eleme...   Mar 23 2006, 03:46 PM

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