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post Mar 23 2006, 02:33 PM
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In the Kabbalistic Cross and LBRP (from the Golden Dawn rite), the words are:

Thou art the power and the kingdom and the glory forever.

In the Calyx (from the Aurum Solis rite), the words are:

Thou art the power and the kingdom and the majesty forever.

alt translation: Thou art the power and the kingdom and the glory forever unto the ages.



Okay:

In both cases: what/who exactly is being addressed?

i.e. What/who is the thou?

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post Mar 24 2006, 11:01 AM
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Conversely, why not the 'thou'? As in your hypothesis on the Avatar you have created a separate entity that is in touch with the alternate reality. 'Thou' is also a blind that has been used for millenia by the Church to denote a higher power. In the Gnostic texts, anyman may achieve this enlightened 'Christ' state. I offered my opinion. You may discard it as the ramblings of sophistry...or not. There are many ways to approach this question. If you are setting the parameters of the discussion so that the arguments proposed can only fit your scenario then it isn't a discussion but an exercise in a closed paradigm logic-loop. A favorite expression: "We are not amused..." attributed to Queen Victoria, illustrates that one is capable of refering to oneself outside the normal grammatical syntax.
In a number of occult texts it is intimated that the Mage must actually experience the godhead and thereby reenact the process of creation to enable him(her) the ability to command the spirits. This is a 'secret' that is passed on to initiates when entering the Inner Mysteries of some paths. Shamanically it makes sense. Within the 'stricture' of modern Chaos Magic, Spare does this with his formula of Atavistic Resurgence. In magical formula the Mage takes on the role of the creator by either performing the rituals 'in Gods name' or by actually becoming God! I understand your questions but I think, IMHO, that you are overcomplicating the procedure. Mayhaps we are to just disagree about this issue. I wish you luck... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


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