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post Nov 22 2005, 04:44 PM
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I have reason to believe i am going trough the dark night of the soul. Wich is fine and all that, but it causes me to feel like shit for the moment.
Everything, even death, seems hollow and boring to me.
I feel this intens feeling of unhappynes, sadness, melancholy if you will.
If you want a complete description of what exactly it is, google has good results.

Could anyone provide me with some guidance, so that i may awake from this night a well rested man? Or perhaps some real life experiences, its always more interesting than regurgitated googleisms. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/fie.gif)


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post Mar 27 2006, 07:51 PM
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I always saw the ego as the basic survival instinct.
I believe the ego is necessary for the survival of the organism.
It drives us to procreate, eat, seek shelter, and all other things necessary for survival.
This can lead to competition, one-upmanship, pride, and other misbehaviours in our society, and when this happens, we say 'so and so has an over- inflated ego.'
When someone has an over-inflated ego, they need more than is necessary to survive, therefore they need fast cars, good looks, youth, adoration, and numerous other trinkets to support their insecurities, and some will go to extraordinary lengths to attain and maintain these things.
These things include such precious commodities as love and happiness.
Don't get me wrong, I also desire these things, though sometimes I really wish I didn't.
Love can be a real pain when it's not reciprocated, and also when it's forced upon an unwilling recipient.
Happiness can make us blind to the suffering of others.
When I'm happy, I find it really difficult to remember what it felt like to be miserable, and vice-versa.
I reckon the idea is to put the ego in it's place where it belongs, which is really difficult, as it appears to mean letting go of all of the above, hence the recommedations for celibacy, giving up of material possesions, solitude and the like (Although I do recognise there can be other reasons for this type of thing).
I freak at the thought of losing everything, but I think this is a trick of the over-inflated ego which, perhaps demonic in nature, seeks to maintain it's food supply, i.e. the energy expended through our fears and insecurities.
I don't mean we should give everything away, go live in a cave,.. etc, but maybe we should work on losing our attatchment to these things which keep us anchored to the world of materialism, so they no longer have the power over us to affect our feelings and behaviours in unhelpful ways, and if and when they are taken away from us, we are not affected in quite the same way as we would otherwise be.
Look at all the great spiritual masters. Most of them had zilch to their names.
I believe the suffering caused by the dark night of the soul is a result of one or more of these desires being unfulfilled, and as such should be embraced as an opportunity to shed some of the karmic dross that weighs us down, hampering our freedom to soar above, below, or whereever.
I've been down, contemplated suicide on and off for about 30 years now, and I've come to the conclusion that I take myself far too seriously.
Not that I no longer do, but I'm aware of it now, and I ALWAYS know that no matter how down I get, I will ALWAYS feel better soon.
ALWAYS.
I always have in the past, and always will in the future, provided I don't snuff it while I'm in the middle of a downer, in which case, as far as I can be certain, I'll be out of the running anyway.
When I'm happy, I try not to go too high in the hope that when I'm down, I won't go too far down, but I'm not too sure of the efficacy of this idea.
It's easy to say in theory but hell to put into practice, as it's difficult to know how happy is too happy.
Contemplate suicide by all means, just don't do it.
It's a waste of a lifetime, and they don't come cheap, otherwise we wouldn't be discussing this right now.
I've spent a long time alone thinking about this, that's why I feel so confident in writing it.
I've also had many good friends who have comitted suicide, and I don't wish to lose any more, especially before I've even got to know them.
Hope I haven't come across too preachy.

Yours in light and darkness,
Steve.

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A_Smoking_Fox   Dark night of the soul   Nov 22 2005, 04:44 PM
mediocracy   Been there for a while now myself. I had some brie...   Nov 22 2005, 05:08 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   Lets hope we reach the end of the tunnel. For the ...   Nov 23 2005, 10:56 AM
Radiant Star   The ego is necessary, the idea that we should try ...   Nov 23 2005, 11:22 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   thanks for your help radiant star. However, i do ...   Nov 23 2005, 12:18 PM
Radiant Star   What a wonderful explanation. I think I have fall...   Nov 23 2005, 12:35 PM
esoterica   mars is in retrograde = introspection, self-confli...   Nov 23 2005, 12:36 PM
mediocracy   Fear is the key. Overcome fear and the ego is dest...   Nov 23 2005, 05:41 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   Hmm, fear. That is a big obstacle indeed. there a...   Nov 24 2005, 01:14 AM
Bb3   There's really no correct answer to your probl...   Nov 24 2005, 01:21 AM
mediocracy   When you are happy, be happy. When you are sad,...   Nov 24 2005, 02:27 AM
Mr_Merlin   Greetings to you all! aaaah ... 'The Long...   Nov 24 2005, 03:18 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   i know what you mean bb3, one must be aware of the...   Nov 24 2005, 05:28 AM
mediocracy   As you have pointed out, the 'simple' part...   Nov 24 2005, 09:05 AM
Bb3   Mediocracy, it's not that you can't turn b...   Nov 24 2005, 12:55 PM
Athena   The best advice is to just wait it out. Be sur...   Nov 24 2005, 05:27 PM
Athena   I fully agree on the ego bit! Not destroy ...   Nov 24 2005, 05:30 PM
Athena   I must say, i do not think that is so. Our past ...   Nov 24 2005, 05:31 PM
Athena   That part always sucks :( I think everyone is ...   Nov 24 2005, 05:35 PM
Mr_Merlin   Greetings Fellow Magicians ... I did the search e...   Nov 25 2005, 03:12 AM
Radiant Star   Good explanations Mr Merlin :) I don't like ...   Nov 25 2005, 04:23 AM
esoterica   Actually, it should open your eyes to the fact tha...   Nov 25 2005, 08:30 AM
Marquis DeSade   I haven't read all the posts in-depth but I wi...   Nov 27 2005, 12:44 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   marquis, i will have to listen to that song then, ...   Nov 27 2005, 04:25 PM
ॐ Z ॐ   This is a depleating condition I have been afflict...   Dec 17 2005, 10:14 PM
Mr_Merlin   Well said! It is exactly that (for me anyway...   Dec 18 2005, 03:50 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   I read a text by some yogi once. It had nothing to...   Dec 18 2005, 05:23 AM
mediocracy   You cannot serve both God and Mammon. http://www....   Dec 18 2005, 12:34 PM
Mr_Merlin   :clap: Well said! Excellent! I couldn...   Dec 19 2005, 03:16 AM
Rakesh   ] Words can not describe how perfectly this rings...   Jan 6 2006, 04:56 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   I see some light, perhaps a lot. when i stop to a...   Jan 11 2006, 01:47 PM
Sadako   Interestingly enough, I went through a sort of ...   Jan 13 2006, 03:09 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   exactly. Exactly. We may have different faiths, bu...   Jan 13 2006, 04:54 AM
Rakesh   Yeah, it appears to be a built-in psychological pu...   Jan 31 2006, 05:06 PM
Psypocalypse   The dark night of the soul is a total collapse of ...   Feb 11 2006, 06:31 PM
Acid09   Force yourself to do something new. As psypocaly...   Feb 13 2006, 02:41 PM
WhiteRaven   "Not the goody-goody christian god either...   Feb 27 2006, 01:49 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   good advice Acid09. Simple yet wise advice. The be...   Feb 27 2006, 05:32 PM
Angalor   Actually I went through something very similar not...   Apr 28 2006, 10:47 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   ah, i went trough that to, but i do not think that...   Jun 14 2006, 02:58 PM
Makavelli   During a dark night of the sould it is important t...   Jul 27 2006, 03:10 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   That is the tendancy, to stimulate yourself trou...   Oct 31 2006, 11:03 AM
Suxur-Mash596   I have found the underlying reason for these Dark ...   Nov 4 2006, 11:14 PM

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