powers of subconcious, concept of god and demons Options

Hi all,
there's something quite interesting that has been in my mind since recent times,especially after having read a lot of items..
Do the Gods/Demons etc that one summons by evocation rituals/sadhanas(mantras)/prayer etc really exist or instead are they the manifestation of the power of the mind....
Like for example if you recite a mantra to call a deity,isnt it that you are telling your subconsious what you need.. the subconsious then with the help of the powers given to mankind by the "ultimate source" creates the deity and you get to master the powers that you request for???

Some points to support this:
1)Normally the deity comes in the form that you visualise and pray(created by the mind)!!!
2)there are also entities that never existed but which someone can create himself according to his mind
3)Different religions have different Gods that they pray and they have different theories on the creation of universe or planet earth itself... There cant be various ways by which the world was created but still all god in the various religions can be evoked!!!! Can it finally come to the point that it is eventually the determination and power of the human mind itself who creates all???
4)Lots is said on Gods/demons/angels/ etc who have their roles on mankind's evolution, like Gods are here to help those who are in need etc etc, but still theres lots of crimes and most unimaginable ones that get committed without any interference.... But in some cases, we can say that miracles occur and people are saved by Jesus or any other entity.... However cant it be just the all is in the power of the human mind??? if someone is being agressed, his mind can be in such a state to create a being to save him and that being will be in the form of a savior e.g Jesus/ archangel Michael.... Even in a evocation, if someone calls a spirit, the manifestation of the spirit also depends on the power of mind of the person... I think that a person with a powerful mind will be able to see the spirit and a less powerful one will be only able to feel the presence or hear it...


Well, all this is a derivation of my mind and need not be true... But still if anyone finds this thread interesting, please do reply to it with your views and what you believe to be true...

as a frnd here recently told:
I am God and God is me; I am Satan and Satan is me...

I'm surprised that some Chaos magicians haven't posted to discuss their using Mickey Mouse as a deity, or some other popular fictional creation. I recall one acquaintance who worshipped Superman as a deity. Another is a member of a faery tradition and worship the elves from Tolkien's Lord of the Ring. I haven't done this personally but imagine that it would work.
Some people believe that the gods and goddesses are entirely created by the worship of mankind. Other deities were probably based upon historical characters and cultural heroes. Some people believe that deities are based on archtypes as mentioned. Still other deities seem to be explanations and deifications of forces and phenomens of nature such as wind, rain, death, sping, fertiltity, etc.
I don't have any neat answers, although I enjoy the speculation. All that I can say is that encounters with deities that I have had have shown them to have definite personalities. They have seemed very real to me, not something dredged up from my subconscious.

They have seemed very real to me, not something dredged up from my subconscious.

So - are you saying that whatever is in your subconscious is not real to you?

real / unreal - the meanings these terms reference definitely seems to depend upon the perspective used.