Orobas, experiences with the spirit Options

Hello everybody,

I practice for few years but I'm quite new with goetic invocation. I now that some don't threat spirits with different rituals but prefer to call them as if the were deities.

Here is my point. In order to arrive to communicate with someone by email who could be a very interesting business contact but who lives abroad and in order to build a kind of friendship with this person, I chose to ask the help of Orobas. I can't tell you why exactly this spirit but it seemed to appear to me as a logic choice.

So I invoked the spirit, calling him with my own method, that is to say repeating a chant created for the occasion and holding his sigil in my hands. For a moment nothing but then I felt a lot of energy going through me as if I were connected to something. But Orobas never appeared. When I closed my eyes during the callings, I could see a countryside whith an horse running and coming to me. So I asked him if he could help me and he did not answer but ask me to put in a little bag his sigil, some droops of my blood, a malachite (green stone), one cristal and the rune ehwaz. I offered to him in exchange to his help to draw his sigil on a piece of wood with an hymn for him and to put it in a river. I felt as if he enjoyed the idea but here also no real agreement. I still felt the rush of energy, some green one. I took my tarot cards, the tarot of thot made by crowley, and when I picked up one card, it was "The devil". At the end I think that he agreeded but I am not sure now that it is over and that don't feel the energy anymore.

Have you any commentaries about this first invocation ? (I think it is always good to have the feedback of others).

Have you ever worked with Orobas ? What king of things did he ask in exchange ? How was your experience ?

Thanks by advance

Orpheus

Greetings Orpheus!
First, I'd like you to look up the definitions to the words 'invoke' and 'evoke'. Just do it. Remember them!

So I asked him if he could help me and he did not answer but ask me to put in a little bag his sigil, some droops of my blood, a malachite (green stone), one cristal and the rune ehwaz. I offered to him in exchange to his help to draw his sigil on a piece of wood with an hymn for him and to put it in a river. I felt as if he enjoyed the idea but here also no real agreement. I still felt the rush of energy, some green one.

"..and he did not answer..." What? Sounds like alot of 'talking' back and forth here...?

I still felt the rush of energy, some green one.

I don't understand...? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cc_confused.gif)

Have you ever worked with Orobas ?

Yes. Our experiences with Goetic invocation/evocation will vary quite abit depending on your methods and ideas about the entities involved. I'm not crazy about 'invoking' demonic entities. Semantics...don't you just love that word? You have offered a Goetic drops of your blood, a piece of malachite, a crystal (I assume quartz?) and a rune (stone?) for his help. Did you specify the help that you required? In his place I'dve been amused also. The experiences of others will be just as subjective. I'm old school myself so my experiences tend toward melodrama and brimstone. *sigh* To each their own.
I suggest keeping a careful log of these rituals so that you can refer back to them someday or so that what family you have will know what happened...Oh, alright! That was just a cheap shot! Please try to do somemore studying before you do this again...OK? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/diablo.gif)