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Praxis
post Mar 23 2006, 02:33 PM
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In the Kabbalistic Cross and LBRP (from the Golden Dawn rite), the words are:

Thou art the power and the kingdom and the glory forever.

In the Calyx (from the Aurum Solis rite), the words are:

Thou art the power and the kingdom and the majesty forever.

alt translation: Thou art the power and the kingdom and the glory forever unto the ages.



Okay:

In both cases: what/who exactly is being addressed?

i.e. What/who is the thou?

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post Apr 4 2006, 10:34 AM
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Greetings

I apologise if this is considered a hijack but I have another question concerning words used in both the LBRP(Kabbalistic Cross) and the Calyx and thought that ,considering the thread title, it should go here instead of creating a new thread. So if I am mistaken please let me know so that it can be corrected.
First off I am doing the Hebrew version of the Calyx as recommended for beginners by Denning & Phillips in "The Foundations of High Magick". Basically, all the words are the same except in the K.C. one says AMEN after LEOLAM but in the calyx one says VO-ED. What I would like to find out is what is the meaning of VO-ED?

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Praxis   Lbrp / Calyx Question   Mar 23 2006, 02:33 PM
bym   YOU are Thou! IMHO,...of course!   Mar 23 2006, 06:47 PM
SangueDiNapoli   Well, when I say it, I direct it towards God (Chri...   Mar 23 2006, 06:55 PM
Hooded Manus   I have found this to be a changing of definitions ...   Mar 23 2006, 07:45 PM
SangueDiNapoli   'soft and cuddly version of daddy'? Sorry,...   Mar 23 2006, 07:54 PM
OldNick   :evil: In the Kabbalistic Cross and LBRP (from the...   Mar 24 2006, 03:09 AM
Praxis   So - one interpretation is: I am the power, and t...   Mar 24 2006, 09:14 AM
bym   Conversely, why not the 'thou'? As in your...   Mar 24 2006, 11:01 AM
Praxis   Honestly, I do not know the answer to why not the ...   Mar 24 2006, 11:49 AM
bym   Absolutely! And, may I add, that these discuss...   Mar 24 2006, 11:58 AM
G.L.B.   Greetings! The way that I understand it, i...   Mar 28 2006, 03:26 PM
Calyx   The ecstatic potential of "thou" is that...   Apr 4 2006, 01:41 PM
ChaosCrowley   אמן Amen--"so be ...   Apr 4 2006, 03:54 PM

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