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Feb 3 2006, 10:12 AM
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I just wanted everyone to know there is a new book coming out by our old friend Simon. Yes the same author of the Necronomicon.
The title of the new book which is Dead Names : The Dark History of the Necronomicon has been out for awhile and it is still not released as of yet BUT they have finally released a picture of the book and a quick overview.
Here is the picture of the new book:
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and here is the Book Description:
The most feared, fascinating, and dangerous book in the history of humankind . . . Necronomicon
An ancient Arabic text -- a powerful book of spells that could, in the wrong hands, create unimaginable and irreversible devastation -- the Necronomicon featured prominently in the stories of legendary horror writer H.P. Lovecraft. For many generations, few believed it to be anything other than pure fiction.
But in 1972, a young man who, for his own protection, must be known simply as "Simon," stumbled upon an old, handwritten manuscript that ultimately proved to be an authentic edition of the unholy work.
Dead Names is the startling true account of the dark and violent history of this most fearsome of books: from its Middle Eastern origins to its reemergence centuries later; its role in pivotal events of the twentieth century, from the JFK assassination to the Son of Sam murders; and the terrible fates that befell those who helped bring the Necronomicon out of the shadows and into the light of day.
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Apr 15 2006, 05:36 PM
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The above might sound harsh, so let me give an example. BTW, if you want a response of mine to a particular piece in either book, please let me know. Dead Names, pp. 287-88: QUOTE Page 134-36: In this section, Gonce attacks the entire idea that there is a “Sumerian Tradition” in modern magic, a patently untenable position that flies in the face of the (documented) facts... Although they claim to be familiar with the works of Kenneth Grant, Gonce and Harms fail to note in their tirade against the Necronomicon that Grant refers to the Sumerian Tradition himself many times over the course of his body of work... Jack Parsons, one of the members of the OTO’s Pasadena lodge in the 1940s, refers to the Sumerian Tradition several times in his own writings, thus demonstrating that it was not unknown to the “mages” of that time and that Order. Simon's conclusion? QUOTE I cannot imagine what sort of occult experts Harms and Gonce had contacted, or of what books their considerable libraries consist, but these references to Sumer are in Parsons, Crowley, and Grant. It's a pretty damning indictment, no? Maybe looking back at the first few sentences to the section covering pages 134-36 of The Necronomicon Files will help: QUOTE In the introduction to his Necronomicon, SImon claims that H. P. Lovecraft and Aleister Crowley met (at least mentally) on the "common soil" of Sumer. Simon also quotes Aleister Crowley as saying: "Our work is therefore historically authentic; the rediscovery of the Sumerian tradition." So, how important was the Sumerian Tradition to Crowley? The section goes on to discuss the references to "Sumer" and "Chaldaea" in Crowley - not Grant, not Parsons, and certainly not modern magic in general. I'm not certain why anyone would have expected otherwise.
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Apr 15 2006, 06:35 PM
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QUOTE(Danharms @ Apr 15 2006, 07:36 PM) The above might sound harsh, so let me give an example. BTW, if you want a response of mine to a particular piece in either book, please let me know. Dead Names, pp. 287-88: QUOTE Page 134-36: In this section, Gonce attacks the entire idea that there is a “Sumerian Tradition” in modern magic, a patently untenable position that flies in the face of the (documented) facts... Although they claim to be familiar with the works of Kenneth Grant, Gonce and Harms fail to note in their tirade against the Necronomicon that Grant refers to the Sumerian Tradition himself many times over the course of his body of work... Jack Parsons, one of the members of the OTO’s Pasadena lodge in the 1940s, refers to the Sumerian Tradition several times in his own writings, thus demonstrating that it was not unknown to the “mages” of that time and that Order. Simon's conclusion? QUOTE I cannot imagine what sort of occult experts Harms and Gonce had contacted, or of what books their considerable libraries consist, but these references to Sumer are in Parsons, Crowley, and Grant. It's a pretty damning indictment, no? Maybe looking back at the first few sentences to the section covering pages 134-36 of The Necronomicon Files will help: QUOTE In the introduction to his Necronomicon, SImon claims that H. P. Lovecraft and Aleister Crowley met (at least mentally) on the "common soil" of Sumer. Simon also quotes Aleister Crowley as saying: "Our work is therefore historically authentic; the rediscovery of the Sumerian tradition." So, how important was the Sumerian Tradition to Crowley? The section goes on to discuss the references to "Sumer" and "Chaldaea" in Crowley - not Grant, not Parsons, and certainly not modern magic in general. I'm not certain why anyone would have expected otherwise. Dan, the next line in your book after "So, how important was the Sumerian Tradition to Crowley?" is: "Daniel and I have both searched diligently for this quote and haven't found it yet, though we have sifted painstakingly through our considerable libraries and enlisted the help of mages on the alt.magick newsgroup on the Internet, many of whom are dedicated Thelemites with a knowledge of Crowley's writing that exceeds our own." (p. 134) I then go on to show that this quote, which no one in your circle could find, is standing right there in the same book by Grant, the Magical Revival, that was cited in yours. It is a quote by Crowley. Not Grant, not Parsons. I think it is a pretty damning indictment, if you ask me, of your painstaking sifting. As for the Hamblin reference, you are focused on that but I wasn't. It wasn't important. What was important was the relation of the Arabic -- and Quranic -- khadhulu to Cthulhu. It's still important, whether brought to my attention by Hamblin, Ryan, or Milton Berle. I gave Ryan his due, as was only proper, then went on to investigate it myself from the original, primary source: the Quran. I then went and referenced other works by Islamic scholars on the same point. I figure that was better than looking for Hamblin. I think that's scholarship, not relying on the Internet and some unidentified "mages" who couldn't find an important quote by Crowley on Sumer. But ...I could be wrong. I also don't want to sound harsh, but The Necronomicon Files were an extended attack on me and my contribution to the field so I feel entitled to a little harshness! Anyway, no hard feelings. Life's too short. I stand behind my statements regarding Crowley and the Sumerian tradition, and how it was picked up and amplified by Parsons and Grant. I also stand behind my research concerning khadhulu/Cthulhu and, yes, even KUTU-LU. I feel that the research presented in Dead Names more than adequately answered the objections in The Necronomicon Files; of course, I don't expect you to feel that way. C'est la vie. I am perfectly willing to respond to other criticisms as best I can, though.
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Nero New Book By Simon Feb 3 2006, 10:12 AM Zahaqiel It should be pointed out though that Lovecraft alw... Feb 4 2006, 09:48 PM Ashnook Should be a good read, but I wonder if Simon is go... Feb 15 2006, 05:01 PM nebo82 Should be a good read, but I wonder if Simon is go... Feb 25 2006, 04:01 PM Simon Should be a good read, but I wonder if Simon is go... Mar 21 2006, 01:18 PM Smasher666 Sounds great. The Necronomicon has worked wonders... Mar 22 2006, 10:24 PM nebo82
Should be a good read, but I wonder if Simon is g... Apr 7 2006, 06:09 PM bym LOL!
Simon was/is an opportunist. He hasn... Feb 25 2006, 04:31 PM animus Anyone care to elaborate about this Simon? :) Feb 25 2006, 04:57 PM Nero Thank you Simon for filling us in on the details o... Mar 22 2006, 07:42 AM distillate I just finished the book today. I really enjoyed t... Apr 11 2006, 01:24 AM Sicksicksicks Even if it is a hodge podge of scraps and made up ... Apr 12 2006, 08:01 PM Simon Even if it is a hodge podge of scraps and made up ... Apr 13 2006, 06:21 PM Danharms You may have questions about Dead Names and/or the... Apr 13 2006, 08:53 PM Sicksicksicks Hi Simon.
I downloaded and read the spellbook Kinj... Apr 13 2006, 07:45 PM Danharms It appears Simon has been here and left already to... Apr 14 2006, 06:46 PM Simon It appears Simon has been here and left already to... Apr 14 2006, 11:06 PM smasher666 Simon my brother keep doing what you have been doi... Apr 14 2006, 11:35 PM Sicksicksicks Does anyone know if this is a reference to the sam... Apr 15 2006, 08:35 AM bym Spare does not refer to the same Watcher as in the... Apr 15 2006, 09:47 AM Sicksicksicks EDITED BY THE MOD SQUAD
Once again, the debate ab... Apr 15 2006, 10:31 AM Danharms Simon,
Thanks for answering my question.
To clar... Apr 15 2006, 05:29 PM nox Hi Simon,
and thank you for a thrilling read. I p... Apr 16 2006, 12:32 PM Simon Hi Simon,
and thank you for a thrilling read. I p... Apr 16 2006, 02:29 PM nox Thanks for your kind comments. I hope Gates lives... Apr 22 2006, 12:03 PM smasher666 Nox quote
"I also decided that I am not willi... Apr 22 2006, 02:06 PM nox Back at the cafe again, and having read the rest o... Apr 23 2006, 08:36 AM Danharms Simon wrote:
We did not cite its appearance in T... Apr 16 2006, 09:44 PM Simon Dan, you wrote:
[We did not cite its appearance in... Apr 17 2006, 07:54 AM Danharms Dan, it's not that you didn't cite it, you... Apr 17 2006, 08:34 PM Ashnook Dan
While I respect your work, your inditment of ... Apr 15 2006, 06:14 PM Danharms Dan
While I respect your work, your inditment of ... Apr 16 2006, 06:06 PM Ashnook Dan and Simon,
Lol dont post too fast because my... Apr 16 2006, 10:36 PM Danharms Ashnook,
It's difficult for me to answer your... Apr 17 2006, 08:09 PM Danharms On pages 197-98 of Dead Names, Simon presents his ... Apr 17 2006, 08:59 PM Simon On pages 197-98 of Dead Names, Simon presents his ... Apr 17 2006, 11:44 PM Danharms This is a problem that has bedeviled better Hebrew... Apr 18 2006, 07:00 PM ChaosCrowley Has the actual Mss. of the necronomicon ever been ... Apr 17 2006, 09:39 PM distillate Has the actual Mss. of the necronomicon ever been ... Apr 17 2006, 10:29 PM ChaosCrowley No not the paperback english edition. An actual f... Apr 17 2006, 10:45 PM Simon No not the paperback english edition. An actual f... Apr 17 2006, 11:40 PM smasher666 No not the paperback english edition. An actual f... Apr 18 2006, 12:22 PM Danharms From the Necronomicon, page xv:
In Dead Names, p... Apr 19 2006, 07:37 PM Simon From the Necronomicon, page xv:
In Dead Names, p... Apr 19 2006, 08:09 PM Danharms Apologies - life gets in the way sometimes.
Well,... Apr 21 2006, 07:25 PM Simon Apologies - life gets in the way sometimes.
[quot... Apr 22 2006, 08:13 PM Danharms I still don't understand why a copy of the Nec... Apr 23 2006, 08:31 AM Danharms Tonight, let's keep it short.
Dead Names, pp.... Apr 21 2006, 07:28 PM Simon Tonight, let's keep it short.
Dead Names, pp.... Apr 22 2006, 08:16 PM Danharms I think ole H.P. was having a funny at Derleth... Apr 23 2006, 08:45 AM nox [quote name='Simon' post='14216' date='Apr 22 2006... Apr 25 2006, 04:26 AM smasher666 Tonight, let's keep it short.
Dead Names, pp.... Apr 22 2006, 09:13 PM Danharms Greetings,
First an foremost I do not believe Sim... Apr 23 2006, 08:59 AM Bot <#thank#> Apr 22 2006, 08:20 PM Danharms One of the most controversial topics in The Necron... Apr 23 2006, 09:47 PM smasher666 Danharms,
You seem like a nice guy but I think ... Apr 23 2006, 10:52 PM Simon Necronomicon was singled out for attention. News ... May 1 2006, 09:33 PM Danharms What other books and sources, Dan? Where has it be... May 2 2006, 09:56 PM Simon [quote name='Simon' post='14567' date='May 1 2006,... May 21 2006, 01:21 PM Danharms Playing catchup here, but has anyone seen a docume... May 21 2006, 08:31 PM Simon Playing catchup here, but has anyone seen a docume... May 22 2006, 09:59 PM Danharms In other words, you only like the sources that sup... May 23 2006, 08:57 PM Simon
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You claim we were motivated by the money. I a... May 29 2006, 12:53 AM Ashnook Smasher,
I agree. Its the same with any religiou... Apr 23 2006, 11:21 PM Danharms Let me take some time to answer your points.
I... Apr 25 2006, 06:21 PM Danharms First, read Dead Names, pages 228-229, on the Temp... Apr 25 2006, 06:27 PM smasher666 First, read [i]Dead Names, pages 228-229, on the T... Apr 25 2006, 07:04 PM distillate There is one other important piece of information ... May 1 2006, 07:32 PM smasher666
There is one other important piece of informatio... May 1 2006, 11:28 PM Simon Dan Harms writes:
There is one other important pi... May 1 2006, 09:43 PM Danharms Let's not forget, though, that the Sumerians a... Apr 27 2006, 06:46 PM smasher666 Let's not forget, though, that the Sumerians a... Apr 27 2006, 08:41 PM Danharms Dipping back into Dead Names...
To support his th... May 4 2006, 08:59 PM smasher666 Dipping back into [i]Dead Names...
To support his... May 7 2006, 07:36 PM Danharms Simon is actually very wise to be looking into oth... May 7 2006, 09:02 PM smasher666
Simon is actually very wise to be looking into o... May 8 2006, 07:25 PM smasher666 To answer the obvious question, this changes nothi... May 8 2006, 08:07 PM Danharms As to whether or not the Necronomicon is a hoax. ... May 10 2006, 10:00 PM Simon The pro-Necronomicon argument would be more compel... May 21 2006, 01:52 PM Danharms With a continuing war in Iraq and the disappearanc... May 21 2006, 08:46 PM Simon In it, he denies a number of assertions about the ... May 23 2006, 03:37 PM smasher666 Questions for the master sage Simon.
I was very p... May 23 2006, 10:43 PM smasher666 About your studys with the Lemegeton or the book w... May 24 2006, 09:11 PM Simon Questions for the master sage Simon.
Deuteronom... May 29 2006, 12:45 AM Danharms Ah, the Toda. Sometimes referred to as "Dodh... May 24 2006, 08:37 PM Danharms I am confused. Do you admit the survival of Sumer... May 10 2006, 09:20 PM Danharms If Simon does return, I'd very much like to kn... May 10 2006, 10:03 PM distillate If Simon does return, I'd very much like to kn... May 17 2006, 01:58 AM Simon If Simon does return, I'd very much like to kn... May 17 2006, 07:28 PM Simon If Simon does return, I'd very much like to kn... May 21 2006, 01:36 PM Danharms Take care, and come back when you're ready. May 17 2006, 08:50 PM Angalor Wow, first off. There's no way I'd be abl... May 22 2006, 10:17 PM smasher666 Book reviews on Simons new book on Amazon.com
3 o... May 23 2006, 01:01 AM Danharms ...It appears Dan that the majority of the people ... May 24 2006, 09:01 PM Danharms
Simon follows this with a list of scholars worki... May 24 2006, 09:09 PM Simon
This raises a couple of other questions. First... May 28 2006, 11:57 PM Danharms According to your book, truth is not "still b... May 29 2006, 07:11 PM
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