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Jabberwock
post Oct 29 2005, 07:41 AM
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Okay, I'll be the fool for five.

In all of me 'extensive' research I'v come across several methods of evocation. The Golden Dawn seems to the the most popular.

My question is, whats with all the tools? I mean, sure I know they can help the summoner and all, but do you really need an elemental weapon for every direction as well as a sword and a dagger, in addition to a magick wand, a blasting rod, a rainbow wand, a banishing wand and well, the list goes on.

Maybe it's just me. I'm more of a simple is better kind of guy. I have one dagger. I have one bowel and a small scrying mirror. Not too big into tools, as useful as they can be. My great luxery is a sword (I love my sword! ^_^).

I have yet to do an evocation, I'm working my way up to it very slowly, but the huge amount of stuff that seems to be required (at least in popular use) is a little big baffling to me.

Are they really all required?

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Arcangle90
post May 4 2006, 07:18 PM
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I've been having a vision of sorts. Not really a vision but an idea. Create a place where interested people can go and create their own magical tools of this sort. Provide knowledgable people and tools to help a student of the occult forge the sword and invest it with power. Carve or create the wand and invest it with power. Forge the dagger, inscribe it, consecrate it, then when the student has finished the construction of his or her tools he goes back out in the world to do magick.

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post May 5 2006, 02:07 AM
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QUOTE(Arcangle90 @ May 4 2006, 08:18 PM) *
I've been having a vision of sorts. Not really a vision but an idea. Create a place where interested people can go and create their own magical tools of this sort. Provide knowledgable people and tools to help a student of the occult forge the sword and invest it with power. Carve or create the wand and invest it with power. Forge the dagger, inscribe it, consecrate it, then when the student has finished the construction of his or her tools he goes back out in the world to do magick.


Great, go create such a place and if it's nearby i promise to drop by! (where "nearby" meaning sweden (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif))

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Jabberwock   The Tools   Oct 29 2005, 07:41 AM
bym   Greetings Jabberwock! You'll find dissenti...   Oct 29 2005, 09:25 AM
Nero   Yes the tools are very essential, but not necessa...   Oct 31 2005, 09:35 AM
Arcangle90   I also think that tools are effective. I consecra...   Apr 12 2006, 02:50 PM
Acid09   It depends on which philosophy you're going by...   Apr 12 2006, 03:25 PM
The White Chaos   A friend of mine swears by anything pointy to dire...   Apr 25 2006, 05:03 AM
Angalor   Weeellll, I'm not so sure. The truth is, the ...   Apr 30 2006, 09:06 PM
Praxis   This issue regarding the usefulness of tools seems...   May 1 2006, 07:01 AM
Jabberwock   The way I've come to regard this subject now, ...   May 2 2006, 10:39 AM
Praxis   That does make sense to me, Jabberwock. The esse...   May 3 2006, 10:57 AM
Jon Strange   I just thought I'd say, I've found this th...   May 3 2006, 12:58 PM
Jabberwock   Praxis--you make a very good point. I tend to take...   May 4 2006, 05:42 AM
Jon Strange   Create a place where interested people can go and ...   May 4 2006, 09:07 PM
Arcangle90   Well.. I already have much of the knowledge to cre...   May 5 2006, 09:42 AM
animus   Sure, sign me up for a long weekend of creating as...   May 5 2006, 12:57 PM
Arcangle90   We'll have to set another one up in Eastern Eu...   May 5 2006, 06:54 PM
Goibniu   Most of the people here are into Ceremonial magic ...   May 5 2006, 10:38 PM
Arcangle90   Thats true. The SAC would probably be a good plac...   May 24 2006, 01:21 PM
Eroscupidonamor   TOOLS--- for the ceremonialist are important... be...   Aug 11 2006, 07:48 AM

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