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post Feb 3 2006, 10:12 AM
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I just wanted everyone to know there is a new book coming out by our old friend Simon. Yes the same author of the Necronomicon.

The title of the new book which is Dead Names : The Dark History of the Necronomicon has been out for awhile and it is still not released as of yet BUT they have finally released a picture of the book and a quick overview.

Here is the picture of the new book:

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and here is the Book Description:


The most feared, fascinating, and dangerous book in the history of humankind . . . Necronomicon

An ancient Arabic text -- a powerful book of spells that could, in the wrong hands, create unimaginable and irreversible devastation -- the Necronomicon featured prominently in the stories of legendary horror writer H.P. Lovecraft. For many generations, few believed it to be anything other than pure fiction.

But in 1972, a young man who, for his own protection, must be known simply as "Simon," stumbled upon an old, handwritten manuscript that ultimately proved to be an authentic edition of the unholy work.

Dead Names is the startling true account of the dark and violent history of this most fearsome of books: from its Middle Eastern origins to its reemergence centuries later; its role in pivotal events of the twentieth century, from the JFK assassination to the Son of Sam murders; and the terrible fates that befell those who helped bring the Necronomicon out of the shadows and into the light of day.


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Tranquilson (a questionable source cited several times by Gonce), in the guise of academic contempt, states—among many other objections - that I “make some extremely untenable historical assertions such as that the Sumerian language is ‘closely allied to that of the Aryan race, having in fact many words identical to that of Sanskrit (and it is said, to Chinese).”
I respectfully submit that these assertions are not untenable at all. At the time the Introduction was being written this was being seriously discussed among scholars of Sumer, and it is still discussed today.


Simon follows this with a list of scholars working on this problem. The question is, how do we know that this matter is being "seriously discussed"? Do these scholars represent the mainstream of linguistic thought?

Here's how we might figure this out. If scholars are discussing something seriously, they're writing about it in papers they place before their colleagues. If they're writing about it to any great degree, they're quoting each other's work. If they're quoting each other's work, there are tools we can use to track it, like a citation database. The more citations, the more influential the article. If you cite yourself, that's worth nothing. The database is not a perfect tool, and other factors need to be considered, but it's a way to find out matters we might not be able to judge otherwise as outsiders.

Let's get started:

A Web site devoted to Sumerian and Indo-European equivalence (www.lexiline.com/lexiline/lexi37.htm): In this case, it's Sumerian to Latvian, and the author asks us to reject all Indo-European scholarship to accept it. No dice.

Dr. Jahanshah Derakhshani: No citations.

Paul Kekai Manansala: One citation, not of a publication, but of an email sent to another author.

After them, we've got three scholars with sizable bodies of work. We'll narrow our search down to what articles I can locate detailing ties between the languages of India and Mesopotamia.

I. M. Diakanoff, "External Connections of the Sumerian Language" Mother Tongue - Two citations, one in which he cites himself, and another I came across on my own. He might have another article I'm tracking down.

Professor Gordon Whittaker: Simon cites his paper "Euphratic: An Indo-European Answer to the Sumerian Question" (no citations). I'll also throw in the article "Traces of an Early Indo-European Language in Southern Mesopotamia" (no citations) and "The Dawn of Writing and Phoneticism" (no citations).

Professor Michael Witzel: Simon cites "Aryan and non-Aryan Names in Vedic India: Data for the Linguistic Situation, c. 1900-500 B.C." That's got five citations (one of them is Witzel citing himself), though the paper barely mentions Mesopotamia. We might also add "Early Sources for South Asian Substrate Languages" (one self-citation) and "Substrate Languages in Old Indo-Aryan
(Rgvedic, Middle and Late Vedic)" (one citation and one self-citation).

To be thorough, I also checked the MLA database for similar articles. In the last twenty years, I found one article on possible Sumerian-Indo-European links - with no citations.

So, we've got very few people quoting others. Ideally, we should be seeing multiple citations for each article as ideas are exchanged and debated. It seems their ideas aren't being debated in the linguistic community. From what I can see, even these scholars are, for the most part, arguing for loan-word exchange through trade, instead of deeper and more lasting connections or relations between language.

This raises a couple of other questions. First, even if "serious debate" was going on, how could it be said, as on page 291, that John was "untrue" to say there were not connections between Sumerian and other languages? Doesn't serious debate mean that the truth is still being determined?

Finally, there's the rest of that quote. Simon offers no justification in recent scholarship on the Sumerian-Chinese comment or for the curious mention of the "Aryan race." Surely those had something to do with Karyn's opinion that the statement was "extremely untenable"?

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Nero   New Book By Simon   Feb 3 2006, 10:12 AM
Zahaqiel   It should be pointed out though that Lovecraft alw...   Feb 4 2006, 09:48 PM
Ashnook   Should be a good read, but I wonder if Simon is go...   Feb 15 2006, 05:01 PM
nebo82   Should be a good read, but I wonder if Simon is go...   Feb 25 2006, 04:01 PM
Simon   Should be a good read, but I wonder if Simon is go...   Mar 21 2006, 01:18 PM
Smasher666   Sounds great. The Necronomicon has worked wonders...   Mar 22 2006, 10:24 PM
nebo82   Should be a good read, but I wonder if Simon is g...   Apr 7 2006, 06:09 PM
bym   LOL! Simon was/is an opportunist. He hasn...   Feb 25 2006, 04:31 PM
animus   Anyone care to elaborate about this Simon? :)   Feb 25 2006, 04:57 PM
Nero   Thank you Simon for filling us in on the details o...   Mar 22 2006, 07:42 AM
distillate   I just finished the book today. I really enjoyed t...   Apr 11 2006, 01:24 AM
Sicksicksicks   Even if it is a hodge podge of scraps and made up ...   Apr 12 2006, 08:01 PM
Simon   Even if it is a hodge podge of scraps and made up ...   Apr 13 2006, 06:21 PM
Danharms   You may have questions about Dead Names and/or the...   Apr 13 2006, 08:53 PM
Sicksicksicks   Hi Simon. I downloaded and read the spellbook Kinj...   Apr 13 2006, 07:45 PM
Danharms   It appears Simon has been here and left already to...   Apr 14 2006, 06:46 PM
Simon   It appears Simon has been here and left already to...   Apr 14 2006, 11:06 PM
smasher666   Simon my brother keep doing what you have been doi...   Apr 14 2006, 11:35 PM
Sicksicksicks   Does anyone know if this is a reference to the sam...   Apr 15 2006, 08:35 AM
bym   Spare does not refer to the same Watcher as in the...   Apr 15 2006, 09:47 AM
Sicksicksicks   EDITED BY THE MOD SQUAD Once again, the debate ab...   Apr 15 2006, 10:31 AM
Danharms   Simon, Thanks for answering my question. To clar...   Apr 15 2006, 05:29 PM
Danharms   The above might sound harsh, so let me give an exa...   Apr 15 2006, 05:36 PM
Simon   The above might sound harsh, so let me give an exa...   Apr 15 2006, 06:35 PM
smasher666   I was quite surprised to find the Book of Dead Nam...   Apr 15 2006, 08:00 PM
nox   Hi Simon, and thank you for a thrilling read. I p...   Apr 16 2006, 12:32 PM
Simon   Hi Simon, and thank you for a thrilling read. I p...   Apr 16 2006, 02:29 PM
nox   Thanks for your kind comments. I hope Gates lives...   Apr 22 2006, 12:03 PM
smasher666   Nox quote "I also decided that I am not willi...   Apr 22 2006, 02:06 PM
nox   Back at the cafe again, and having read the rest o...   Apr 23 2006, 08:36 AM
Danharms   Simon wrote: We did not cite its appearance in T...   Apr 16 2006, 09:44 PM
Simon   Dan, you wrote: [We did not cite its appearance in...   Apr 17 2006, 07:54 AM
Danharms   Dan, it's not that you didn't cite it, you...   Apr 17 2006, 08:34 PM
Ashnook   Dan While I respect your work, your inditment of ...   Apr 15 2006, 06:14 PM
Danharms   Dan While I respect your work, your inditment of ...   Apr 16 2006, 06:06 PM
Ashnook   Dan and Simon, Lol dont post too fast because my...   Apr 16 2006, 10:36 PM
Danharms   Ashnook, It's difficult for me to answer your...   Apr 17 2006, 08:09 PM
Danharms   On pages 197-98 of Dead Names, Simon presents his ...   Apr 17 2006, 08:59 PM
Simon   On pages 197-98 of Dead Names, Simon presents his ...   Apr 17 2006, 11:44 PM
Danharms   This is a problem that has bedeviled better Hebrew...   Apr 18 2006, 07:00 PM
ChaosCrowley   Has the actual Mss. of the necronomicon ever been ...   Apr 17 2006, 09:39 PM
distillate   Has the actual Mss. of the necronomicon ever been ...   Apr 17 2006, 10:29 PM
ChaosCrowley   No not the paperback english edition. An actual f...   Apr 17 2006, 10:45 PM
Simon   No not the paperback english edition. An actual f...   Apr 17 2006, 11:40 PM
smasher666   No not the paperback english edition. An actual f...   Apr 18 2006, 12:22 PM
Danharms   From the Necronomicon, page xv: In Dead Names, p...   Apr 19 2006, 07:37 PM
Simon   From the Necronomicon, page xv: In Dead Names, p...   Apr 19 2006, 08:09 PM
Danharms   Apologies - life gets in the way sometimes. Well,...   Apr 21 2006, 07:25 PM
Simon   Apologies - life gets in the way sometimes. [quot...   Apr 22 2006, 08:13 PM
Danharms   I still don't understand why a copy of the Nec...   Apr 23 2006, 08:31 AM
Danharms   Tonight, let's keep it short. Dead Names, pp....   Apr 21 2006, 07:28 PM
Simon   Tonight, let's keep it short. Dead Names, pp....   Apr 22 2006, 08:16 PM
Danharms   I think ole H.P. was having a funny at Derleth...   Apr 23 2006, 08:45 AM
nox   [quote name='Simon' post='14216' date='Apr 22 2006...   Apr 25 2006, 04:26 AM
smasher666   Tonight, let's keep it short. Dead Names, pp....   Apr 22 2006, 09:13 PM
Danharms   Greetings, First an foremost I do not believe Sim...   Apr 23 2006, 08:59 AM
Bot   <#thank#>   Apr 22 2006, 08:20 PM
Danharms   One of the most controversial topics in The Necron...   Apr 23 2006, 09:47 PM
smasher666   Danharms, You seem like a nice guy but I think ...   Apr 23 2006, 10:52 PM
Simon   Necronomicon was singled out for attention. News ...   May 1 2006, 09:33 PM
Danharms   What other books and sources, Dan? Where has it be...   May 2 2006, 09:56 PM
Simon   [quote name='Simon' post='14567' date='May 1 2006,...   May 21 2006, 01:21 PM
Danharms   Playing catchup here, but has anyone seen a docume...   May 21 2006, 08:31 PM
Simon   Playing catchup here, but has anyone seen a docume...   May 22 2006, 09:59 PM
Danharms   In other words, you only like the sources that sup...   May 23 2006, 08:57 PM
Simon   [ You claim we were motivated by the money. I a...   May 29 2006, 12:53 AM
Ashnook   Smasher, I agree. Its the same with any religiou...   Apr 23 2006, 11:21 PM
Danharms   Let me take some time to answer your points. I...   Apr 25 2006, 06:21 PM
Danharms   First, read Dead Names, pages 228-229, on the Temp...   Apr 25 2006, 06:27 PM
smasher666   First, read [i]Dead Names, pages 228-229, on the T...   Apr 25 2006, 07:04 PM
distillate   There is one other important piece of information ...   May 1 2006, 07:32 PM
smasher666   There is one other important piece of informatio...   May 1 2006, 11:28 PM
Simon   Dan Harms writes: There is one other important pi...   May 1 2006, 09:43 PM
Danharms   Let's not forget, though, that the Sumerians a...   Apr 27 2006, 06:46 PM
smasher666   Let's not forget, though, that the Sumerians a...   Apr 27 2006, 08:41 PM
Danharms   Dipping back into Dead Names... To support his th...   May 4 2006, 08:59 PM
smasher666   Dipping back into [i]Dead Names... To support his...   May 7 2006, 07:36 PM
Danharms   Simon is actually very wise to be looking into oth...   May 7 2006, 09:02 PM
smasher666   Simon is actually very wise to be looking into o...   May 8 2006, 07:25 PM
smasher666   To answer the obvious question, this changes nothi...   May 8 2006, 08:07 PM
Danharms   As to whether or not the Necronomicon is a hoax. ...   May 10 2006, 10:00 PM
Simon   The pro-Necronomicon argument would be more compel...   May 21 2006, 01:52 PM
Danharms   With a continuing war in Iraq and the disappearanc...   May 21 2006, 08:46 PM
Simon   In it, he denies a number of assertions about the ...   May 23 2006, 03:37 PM
smasher666   Questions for the master sage Simon. I was very p...   May 23 2006, 10:43 PM
smasher666   About your studys with the Lemegeton or the book w...   May 24 2006, 09:11 PM
Simon   Questions for the master sage Simon. Deuteronom...   May 29 2006, 12:45 AM
Danharms   Ah, the Toda. Sometimes referred to as "Dodh...   May 24 2006, 08:37 PM
Danharms   I am confused. Do you admit the survival of Sumer...   May 10 2006, 09:20 PM
Danharms   If Simon does return, I'd very much like to kn...   May 10 2006, 10:03 PM
distillate   If Simon does return, I'd very much like to kn...   May 17 2006, 01:58 AM
Simon   If Simon does return, I'd very much like to kn...   May 17 2006, 07:28 PM
Simon   If Simon does return, I'd very much like to kn...   May 21 2006, 01:36 PM
Danharms   Take care, and come back when you're ready.   May 17 2006, 08:50 PM
Angalor   Wow, first off. There's no way I'd be abl...   May 22 2006, 10:17 PM
smasher666   Book reviews on Simons new book on Amazon.com 3 o...   May 23 2006, 01:01 AM
Danharms   ...It appears Dan that the majority of the people ...   May 24 2006, 09:01 PM
Simon   This raises a couple of other questions. First...   May 28 2006, 11:57 PM
Danharms   According to your book, truth is not "still b...   May 29 2006, 07:11 PM
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