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Zen And The Art Of Sorcery., Mechanics of the energetic reality. |
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Vagrant Dreamer |
May 20 2006, 12:13 AM
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This thread is meant to deal specifically with two matters which must go hand in hand. 1. The mechanics of the energetic reality, including the structure of reality; and 2. Techniques for applying this knowledge towards the goal of becoming a competent initiate sorcerer. After that you're on your own.
As to the mechanics.
The universe at large, including all dimensions of existence, is an entity. It is composed of a mind, body, and spirit exactly like you and I are. it is infinitely more complex - and by using this word I want to impress that no mater how far you stretch your imagination, you haven't grapsed it yet; or even scratched the surface - than you or I are. The relationship between the universe and you is similar to the relationship of you to the atoms that compose your body. Obviously you're aware of them, at least collectively and in the effective house they compose for you, but they aren't aware of you. each atom simply does what it is made to do. It's too simple a pattern of dense energy to possess conciousness on the same level you do, but it also possesses a mind, body and spirit.
The Spirit is the Causal, energetic universe. It is the Purpose of the universe, and every division of the whole has it's own measure of purpose. It is the first dimension. The Body is the Phenomenal, physical universe. The material is a dimension of it's own. Length, width, and depth are measurements.The two aspects are parallel, and affect one another equally.
The mind is the Reactive nature of the universe. It is a result of the patterns that eventually accrued over time from the moment of the universe's initialization. Consciousness as we know it developed totally by random, but was none the less inevitable - patterns yield intelligence, which yields consciousness. Plain and simple. it's collective presence constitutes a third dimension. Hence our three dimensional existence.
each dimension is then divided into its own dimensions which are basically categorical measurements or aspects within the greater facet. At the top of things, the universe is unified - but we divide it here into these categories to understand how the machine works, what it's laws are based upon, and how we may use our temporary individuality to maintain the same when we no longer have a phenomenal home.
Also in the structure of what we generally percieve to be the universe is sometimes included Darkness, Evil, etc. it is easy to see the effects of 'evil' in the world and believe that destruction is simply part of the whole, but in reality it isn't. it is part of the system, but it is rather the natural resistance of the expansion of the universe into the vacuum. The vacuum is litterally non-existence. it's not part of a greater system, as we're addressing the hypothetical and frankly inconcievable entirety of existence across all dimensions. our perception of existence is an intersection of various frequencies of energy. We are at the center of the intersection, and are held there by our physical energy trap. The body just holds a charge. Energy is progression and purpose, the body modulates that energy along specific patterns, and the result is a standing energy loop which constitutes a soul in most people's book, or at least a spirit. A soul, or enduring entity without body, is a standing energy loop dense enough to hold itself together. Like a planet is held together by gravity, or atoms. Those physical things are energy so dense that they slowed down to the point of becoming to energy what solids are to gasses.
I digress... the degeneration of existence, commonly considered 'destruction', although that correlation is arguabley mistaken to some points of view, is caused by the pull of the vaccuum. Originally all energy was seperated into it's component parts, the tiniest most unimaginably minute slivers of existence - individual fermions all pulled by the vaccuum into a kind of infinitesimally fine dust that was uniformly spread throughout the void amidst an intense pressure. Enough pressure to pull the universe apart. inevitably, a spark struck, and the resulting cosmically cataclysmic pattern of cascading 'fermions' or whatever composes THEM perhaps, resulted in the universe as we know it - over a period of time that there's no point even referencing. However, that reaction drew the universe tegether from throughout the vaccuum of the void, and that pressure began to increase in opposition to the expansion of the universe. And, eventually, in the vast stretch of eternity, it will pull the universe apart again. Who knows what evolutionary change will occur within the universe then, or if, like our own fortified souls, the universe is progressively reborn better each time? No point in speculating stuff like that.
Like any evolving life form, the universe developes patterns which improve it and which weaken it in some way. Over time, hopefully the patterns which weaken it are eliminated through it's evolutionary process. This pattern of weakness creates an opposing pattern of explotation by the Void - not because it acts with a purpose, but because the universe is simply exposed at it's weak points, and those weak points are systematic patterns. Consciousness at the universal level is a scale model of human consciousness - the parts that make it up are simply vastly more cpmplex and larger than our own.
decay is the manifestation of the void's effect on the universe. The transmutation of decay into new existence is the Universe's response, it's process of healing.
Once these basic dynamics are accepted and then explored as though they were the solid truth of existence - which, IMHO they are, as they are a solid basis and universal explanation for every single magickal or spiritual mythos or system in human consciousness (and i'll defend that point gladly on request, rather than offer demonstrations presently) - the inherent exchanges of energy between the three dimensions and the Void begin to unfold naturally before the eyes of the wouldbe Sorcerer, and this is the beginning of evolving Sight.
Peace Vagrant
Next Time: Resonance, Standing Waves, and Karma; Beginner's Meditation for Acquiring spiritual Density.
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The world is complicated - that which makes it up is elegantly simplistic, but infinitely versatile.
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Jun 4 2006, 01:19 PM
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QUOTE(MasterVerro @ Jun 4 2006, 01:23 PM) Melez, Vagrant Dreamer.
It seems you have been reading just a bit too much Carlos Castaneda.
The teachings of Don Juan and Carlos Castenada should be taken lightly as an approach to ACTUAL sorcery.
The only reason what Don Juan did was ever referred to as SORCERY was the fact that is what he was referred to in Mexico. His teachings are much more that of a seer or shaman than a sorceror.
As for your use of the word twliight, that in no way has anything to do with sorcery, or the teaching of Don Juan. The term is one made up by the writers of The Library of Knowledge.
Ho Drakon Ho Megas!
Master Verro The similarity in lexicon should not imply a direct developement of technique from Carlos Casteneda's book - if you have read them, then you will know that within them are listed several techniques for developing Sight, and I have mentioned none of them. I reference Castaneda briefly only because wether he was a fiction writer or anthropologist, he accurately portrayed some aspects of the energetic universe. I mentioned the term twilight only as a locally familiar reference to a state of mind in which one is able to percieve the energetic reality. Also, while I have offered before my own interpretation of what the words "Sorcerer" implies, it is an implication only, and I believe most would agree that to 'define' sorcery into a particular brand or tradition of magickal practice would be foolish - Sorcerer is a synonym for Wizard, Magician, etc. - at one point in history a synonym with Alchemist as well. I have already defined these terms for their specific application here, so there is no point mincing words over words. There's no question as to wether or not these techniques bear fruit. If your dissection is one that comes from practical, life experience with magick, then by all means, offer your rebuttle of what I have to say - in magickal practice, refuting sources is foolish. We may define magick as a whole as the practice of applying one's intention to the universe in order to bring about change. As you can imagine, this is a broad definition, and the only functioning concepts within it are Intention, Universe, and Change, with no reference to the means by which that change is brought about. I simply submit that by having a basic intellectual grasp of the fundamentals of energetic meta-physics, the student may develope a more accurate ability to properly, objectively, percieve and evaluate the mystical significance of his life experience. It is subjectivity of mystical senses which often blinds the student. There is a vastly popular belief that there is only a subjective reality. This belief is considered empowering to much of today's mystical youth, but time and again it proves to be a barrier towards the higher levels of spiritual - magickal - growth. Most young magicians - and I'll warrant most here are - are more concerned with results than with Perception and Knowledge - How do I make things happen, what tradition or word do I use to do this or that. But, these things become obvious when proper perception and objectivity of the energetic universe is acquired. You may call consistent subjectivity the same as "Letting Self get in the way." Subjectivity is for Navigating and creating experience, objectivity is for sensing and evaluating. The best way to express the fundamentals is by making references and analogies to things which parallell them. This can be anything from daily occurences, to the movements of the planets, to Carlos Castaneda. As I said: all that IS, IS, and all that IS NOT, IS NOT. Everything represents something, even if it doesn't seem true - if it is, then it is true, period. If it wasn't, it wouldn't be there. The trick is understanding what Truth is being represented and how. peace
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Jun 5 2006, 06:38 AM
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[quote name='Vagrant Dreamer' date='Jun 4 2006, 02:19 PM' post='15259'] [quote name='MasterVerro' post='15257' date='Jun 4 2006, 01:23 PM'] Also, while I have offered before my own interpretation of what the words "Sorcerer" implies, it is an implication only, and I believe most would agree that to 'define' sorcery into a particular brand or tradition of magickal practice would be foolish - Sorcerer is a synonym for Wizard, Magician, etc. - at one point in history a synonym with Alchemist as well. I have already defined these terms for their specific application here, so there is no point mincing words over words. [/quote] I usually equate Sorcery with Thaumaturgy for no apearant reason. If there is in fact a path calling itīs Magick Sorcery or themselves Sorcerers i would be interested in knowing more anout them. Calling Magick "Religion" as is done on another thread is just the mark of not having done ones homework. Magick is like Yoga diametrically oposite to Religion and Mystisism. Magick, Yoga-Active,Doing, Fire. Religion,Mystisism-Passive,Recieving,Water. Combined however they form a powerful amalgam. (IMG: http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e2/ErosAgape/sgdearthpentacle.jpg)
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Vagrant Dreamer Zen And The Art Of Sorcery. May 20 2006, 12:13 AM Vagrant Dreamer Next Time: Resonance, Standing Waves, and Karma; B... May 20 2006, 11:21 PM Vagrant Dreamer Who here is not familiar with the term 'Zen... Jun 3 2006, 01:14 AM Vagrant Dreamer In the second post from the top, I mentioned examp... Jun 6 2006, 09:32 PM Vagrant Dreamer Energetic Vocabulary means the same thing as vocab... Jun 8 2006, 11:25 PM Vagrant Dreamer All of these posts so far have been concerned with... Jun 27 2006, 11:14 PM Vagrant Dreamer The update to this thread is long overdue. I got s... Feb 26 2007, 02:51 AM Alafair [color=#CC9933]Namaste, Master Vero! :hey:
... Jun 4 2006, 01:05 PM Sojrn I came up with my own "description" afte... Jun 4 2006, 07:37 PM MasterVerro In fact my statement does come from experience. I ... Jun 4 2006, 10:31 PM MasterVerro I do consider myself a sorceror and my art sorcery... Jun 5 2006, 05:08 PM Vagrant Dreamer I do consider myself a sorceror and my art sorcery... Jun 6 2006, 04:27 PM Khenti_Amenti Ho Drakon, Ho Megas!
Nice.
Sometimes i feel t... Jun 6 2006, 07:16 AM Alafair Sometimes i feel the use of titles, names and epit... Jun 6 2006, 11:08 AM MasterVerro I am beginning to agree with your statements. I no... Jun 6 2006, 05:14 PM
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