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Khenti_Amenti
post Jun 3 2006, 09:56 AM
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Can anyone give me some good arguments for Reincarnation?

I have myself quarreled inside when it comes to this topic.
I prefer however to keep disciplins apart and keep the Relegio/Mystical to it self and not blend in natural science.

Scientifically the most importand factor defining life is procreation.

Since most of my spirtual work has been Hermetic and Kabbalistic i tend to see thing through those traditions.

The "wheel" of rebirth, or Samsara of the Hindus does not really have an equivalent in either Kabbala or Hermetisism even if the "climbing" towards the light of anihilation, Nirvana does (in the case of Kabbala it would be Kether).

I HAVE however speculated in the sphere of Yesod, working as a final matrix for creation might harbour som "stuff" or "memories", patterns of the created on the way up after death and that energy of a sort corresponding might "grab" it in going down to be created.

This could explain being reborn as severel different people as one Dalai Lama was.

This is not well thought through Kabbala or canonic in anyway though.
My main concern is the here and now.

Sometimes rather naive arguments like "the little flowers returning in spring" are used. Thing is, its not the same flowers. They procreated and rotted.

*Feed the worms*

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post Jun 10 2006, 05:52 AM
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I have read several books on this subject and I myself have had several regressions. One book that I found rather interesting was by a lady by the name of Slyvia Browne who has spent many years researching this subject and has many many case files regarding clients that she has helped to 'heal' through the use of regression techniques. One of the things that is mentioned in the book has to do with something called cell memory, which is along the same lines as the DNA theory that Acid09 mentioned. I have also read several other books regarding childeren and the subject of past lives that have been well researched for dates, times and names of places and people. Through one of my regressions I was able to obtain a name that I was able to trace back to a particular event as an actual person that was living here on this plane of existence. I was more inclined to be less skeptical because the event itself was something I had very little knowledge of and yet the more I researched and the more I found out the more it fitted with what happened during the regression. I personally think that we have along way to go before we are able to prove through mainstream science that reincarnation occurs and the evidence of case files and regressions is simply not enough to prove to those that are skeptical about reincarnation that this does take place. I think that what people are trying to get at with the anology of the flowers is the patterns that occur within nature and the universe, whilst you say that these are not the same flowers each time, when we reincarnate - we are not the same people. I think this is definately something that someone could ponder for a lifetime and still not be one hundered percent sure of, whilst I beleive that this takes place, I still like to look at the sibject objectively and have arguments for both sides.
In a round about way I can see what you mean in regards to Yesod, due to the bonding aspect and the teachings of how to appreciate the present moment. As a singular moment is the both the expression of how we have lived in the past and what is possible in the future. This particular teaching I feel could be viewed on both a microscopic scale (our present lifetime) and also on a macrocosmic scale (our past lifetimes). I think from my experiences with regression we definately "carry over" issues or experience which contribute to who we are and how we react to situations until we have somehow come to resolve them, wether it be this lifetime or several lifetimes.


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Khenti_Amenti   Reincarnation?   Jun 3 2006, 09:56 AM
Acid09   One theory I have toyed with is the idea that we a...   Jun 9 2006, 03:25 PM
alin   My opinion is we get another chance to become bett...   Sep 1 2006, 03:03 PM
Karlz16   yeah what i have read form other sources on reinca...   Sep 1 2006, 03:06 PM
Karlz16   we live there for as long as we want as others wou...   Sep 1 2006, 03:09 PM
alin   My toughts exactly , and then when we die we remem...   Sep 2 2006, 12:19 PM
Saul de Plume   Do you believe in reincarnation? For that matter d...   Nov 24 2006, 11:31 PM
DeathStalker   Do you believe in Reincarnation? I believe in rei...   Nov 24 2006, 11:41 PM
smasher666   Yes I believe in reincarnation. Yes I believe in ...   Nov 24 2006, 11:49 PM
Saul de Plume   Blech... Three Fold path is yuck...ok But by what...   Nov 25 2006, 08:58 PM
smasher666   I believe the spelling of magick comes from a cert...   Nov 25 2006, 10:58 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   I believe in both karma and reincarnation. Here...   Nov 25 2006, 11:50 PM
Saul de Plume   I can kinda see his reasoning for that, but I stil...   Nov 25 2006, 11:31 PM
mandrake   This is really good!!! In reality, if...   Nov 26 2006, 03:17 PM
DeathStalker   This is really good!!! In reality, if...   Dec 7 2006, 03:32 AM
Vagrant Dreamer   The problem with scientists is that they do not tr...   Dec 7 2006, 09:39 AM
DeathStalker   Don't be too judgemental of the scientific wes...   Dec 8 2006, 02:52 AM
Vagrant Dreamer   If scientists had understood the simple concepts o...   Dec 14 2006, 03:33 PM
DeathStalker   SUNDS isn't a disease, it's a syndrome, ak...   Dec 14 2006, 05:16 PM
Acid09   I went ahead and merged this thread with a pre-exi...   Dec 14 2006, 06:59 PM
business voodoo   i can see reincarnation as being as valid as it no...   Dec 15 2006, 04:37 PM
dynajam   A very good book on reincarnation is called ...   Jan 16 2007, 08:24 PM
valkyrie   As someone who remembers being reincarnated more t...   Feb 5 2007, 05:54 PM
valkyrie   P.S (lol) I thought the scientific approach would ...   Feb 5 2007, 06:10 PM
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valkyrie   Much love to Alafair. Your reply was enjoyed. I ...   Feb 8 2007, 02:12 PM
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