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post Feb 21 2006, 09:39 PM
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I've heard of people smoking Salvia Divinorum for astral projecting..Since I just ordered my ounce of salvia and it wont be here for a while I'd like to here any experiences anyone has had with Salvia. I've heard that Nightshade can also be used for the same purpose. Anyone experimented with these herbs? I'll have my own experience as reference soon, but I'm like my homeboy Jesus..I like to listen lol. Any other experiences with any other herb is welcomed as well (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif).

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post Feb 28 2006, 02:23 PM
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It's all good. To be honest these are sensitive topics which I usually include in my list, along with politics as things that are inappropriate for comment on in public. Sadly, I broke my own rules. I didn't think you were being an arseh*ole, it's one of those classic examples of the Internet not always expressing ideas that well.


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post Mar 27 2006, 10:09 AM
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Okay.

Salvia Divinorum.

Could member here who acutally have used this tool for stimulating awareness please share some accurate explanations for what exactly the beneficial effect is?

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QUOTE(Praxis @ Mar 27 2006, 12:09 PM) *
Okay.

Salvia Divinorum.

Could member here who acutally have used this tool for stimulating awareness please share some accurate explanations for what exactly the beneficial effect is?


Salvia divinorum, when smoked as an extract - I'll agre with Bym here, the leaves have NEVER managed to get me anywhere; actually, i believe something like sixty fresh leaves were chewed by the mexican shamans - has always given me a sense of weightlessness which can be incredibly disorienting if you try to stand up, walk around, etc.

I've had two really intense salvia trips using 20x extract. It should be noted that these experience are VERY briefly paraphrased, because salvia trips occur in more than the standard 4 dimensions of perception. Freaky freaky.

The first trip, three deep hits from a water pipe, started out by giving me a sensation of pins and needles all over my skin. Not an unpleasant tingling, although it did have a peak intensity in which I really thought I might need to scratch every inch of my body intently.. resisting the urge, however, I laid back onto my pile of cushions and watched the shadows from the candle light play over my walls, altar, etc. almost as soon as I turned my attention from my body, I felt like I was slipping sideways, specifically to the left, and actually, visually, saw the room change angle with me. I was instantly out of body. After that I looked intently at my altar and found that there was a kind of 'tear' in the structure of it. So, I moved forward into the altar, and through the tear, and found myself in a long, long hallway with many doors of all sorts of different decorations, shapes, sizes, symbols, and sensations. I managed to examine three doors before I felt the call back to my body, and the end of the trip. They were all large doors with words written on them in some kind of dream language that was more like writing with a collection of sensory details than an alphabet. Hard to accurately convey. Each of the doors turned out to be entrances to three different aspects of my magickal persona (worth noting that I did this first trip with the intention of understanding magick more thoroughly, it's practice, origin, purpose, etc.). The whole thing took maybe an hour of 'dreamtime' - popped back into my body, it was a five minute trip.

Second trip, five deep hits, and this time I didn't actually 'leave' my body in the manner before, but rather the world around me just melted into another dimension. Probably the astral, but far more intense and alien than I have experienced on my own. I can't even describe it other than to say that the origins, and future states, of everything around me, kind of piled up so that I was experiencing non-linear time in my immediate environment. From inbetween all of that, I met an entity who constituted the concept of emotional expression. Our conversation was private and took place, again, in many extra dimensions, but that was the night that I overcame the brunt of my emotional baggage and finally started to feel. It was intense.

While mushroom trips have been more intense, longer, and less phsyically debilitating, I have found that Salvia trips, both time, have been more constructive and powerful. Salvia will seriously bend time, and reality, completely out of context. The average trip is very fast in linear time. Five to ten minutes, tops. If you can surrender to the experience, you can spend hours in between dimensions before coming back.

SanqueDiNapoli, if you're interested still, I have some extract that I don't intend on using anytime soon. I live in NYC as well, I'd be happy to give it to you.

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SangueDiNapoli   Salvia Divinorum & Nightshade.   Feb 21 2006, 09:39 PM
bym   Greetings Chris! Yes, I've had experience ...   Feb 22 2006, 12:24 AM
SangueDiNapoli   Oo...Since I just spent a pretty penny on trident ...   Feb 22 2006, 12:58 AM
daev   I haven't tryed any Salvia yet but I do plan o...   Feb 22 2006, 02:05 PM
SangueDiNapoli   Ya' see...I was going to get the 5x, or 10x ex...   Feb 22 2006, 04:31 PM
bym   Mind altering substances, legal or not, can be dic...   Feb 22 2006, 05:24 PM
SangueDiNapoli   Sure, the link would be appreciated, but isn't...   Feb 23 2006, 03:21 AM
bym   LOL! C'mon...use your imagination in regae...   Feb 23 2006, 04:29 PM
chaoscrowley37   This topic came up recently ant Nightshade's f...   Feb 24 2006, 02:16 PM
SangueDiNapoli   See, I knew I should've gotten the 5x, or 10x ...   Feb 24 2006, 11:18 PM
chaoscrowley37   It's probably the same thing. It's not il...   Feb 24 2006, 11:45 PM
SangueDiNapoli   Well, I had bought mine from herbal-SMoke.com. I j...   Feb 24 2006, 11:57 PM
chaoscrowley37   From my understanding it's kind of a legal loo...   Feb 25 2006, 12:10 AM
bym   This is why I hate disclosing some of my sources.....   Feb 25 2006, 04:49 PM
SangueDiNapoli   Calm down Mr.bym reaper, lol. I just wanted to mak...   Feb 26 2006, 11:20 AM
SangueDiNapoli   Lol....First salvia experience...Complete flop...T...   Feb 26 2006, 10:47 PM
chaoscrowley37   Yum nothing like old dry leaves roaring down the l...   Feb 26 2006, 11:05 PM
SangueDiNapoli   I guess I'm not a good catholic because I don...   Feb 26 2006, 11:22 PM
chaoscrowley37   The heat is not a bad thing, as long as it's w...   Feb 26 2006, 11:33 PM
SangueDiNapoli   Never smoking leaves again sounds good to me. I...   Feb 26 2006, 11:41 PM
SangueDiNapoli   ::After Salvia Smoke Attempt #2:: Yeah, I think I ...   Feb 27 2006, 10:42 AM
bym   Look..... Burning this stuff on a charcoal burner/...   Feb 27 2006, 01:43 PM
chaoscrowley37   I think you are confusing what I am talking about....   Feb 27 2006, 06:27 PM
SangueDiNapoli   No, no, I understood what you meant. I was just po...   Feb 27 2006, 06:54 PM
chaoscrowley37   I was referring to bym. I should have used quote b...   Feb 27 2006, 09:52 PM
bym   CC37, I'm sorry that you got the impression th...   Feb 27 2006, 10:21 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   And since Nightshade is in the topic title as well...   Jul 8 2006, 02:19 PM
SangueDiNapoli   Sounds like a trip (Pardon the Pun). I appreciate ...   Jul 8 2006, 02:11 PM
smasher666   I've heard of people smoking Salvia Divinorum ...   Jul 8 2006, 10:30 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   I've heard of people smoking Salvia Divinorum...   Jul 25 2006, 08:12 PM
bym   Greetings! I will reiterate....so humor the OL...   Jul 25 2006, 09:04 PM
smasher666   Greetings! I will reiterate....so humor the OL...   Jul 25 2006, 11:57 PM
bym   I know of no known psychopharmacological component...   Jul 26 2006, 05:26 AM
Angalor   Actually since it's quite harsh you might want...   Jul 26 2006, 09:01 AM
GaiusOctavian   Diviner's weed. Yeah, that's one of the na...   Jul 26 2006, 12:02 PM
Xochipilli   Never heard of salvia or any nightshade plants bei...   Dec 12 2006, 09:44 PM
Enochian   peyote and gymsum weed also. salvia usually is goo...   Dec 13 2006, 02:06 PM
Xochipilli   Have you ever experimented with datura Enochian? I...   Jan 12 2007, 04:37 PM
Enochian   No but i would like to. LOL hope i dont have to ea...   Jan 15 2007, 11:03 AM
distillate   When I did salvia (15x), whoa, right after I exhal...   Jan 16 2007, 09:54 AM
Enochian   Forgot to mention the proper name for Salvia is Di...   Jan 16 2007, 05:03 PM

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