Sorcery, merged with older thread Options

“Sorcery has no bounds or limits, except those that are put in place by the practitioner. It is the Study of Raw Power and often of Dark Energies. It stems from an Inherent need to delve into the deepest and darkest parts of One’s Self and although it may be dangerous and painful to Realise your Primal fears and desires it is well worth the effort”.

I was somewhat disappointed but not surprised to see so little interest in this category. I know that information is hard to find but so is anything that is worth the effort.

Although this is not the Path for everybody I hope that at least some of you are interested.

I am therefore inserting a basic description.

EDIT - text reduced to normal size. Mediocracy 01/04/2005

Sorcery is the need to study the deepest and darkest parts of ones self. Through understanding their primal desires, obscure passions, and emotionality the practitioner than draws on his or her own Raw Power. Most Sorcerers adopt an aggressive stance in their magical works. They tend to ignore whether or not they use their power for “good” or “evil, and often dismiss such concepts from their lives altogether.

Sorcery cares not what it changes.... it simply changes

Central to sorcery are Balance and Polarity within ones self, this can then be transferred to the world around us. The sorcerer is an expert at bending things to their own will. The most common way of achieving this is by using Twilight – this is a realm of the mind which is characterized by its extreme distortive properties, roiling energies, and occurrences bizarre enough to shock even the calmest, most accepting individuals. The practitioner can make changes in this shadow world that will then manifest themselves in the everyday world.

The unique art known as Sorcery is one which knows no bounds and has no limits, except those which are allowed by the user.

Another aspect of Sorcery is Glamour. This grants its wielder immense powers of persuasion. Ultimately it changes the way People Perceive the Person that is using it. It can Instill fear and create harmony. Oh and if you wish to temporarily change your appearance it can be useful to.

Hope this was some Help

This post has been edited by mediocracy: Apr 1 2005, 09:18 AM

Then you can see by the posts and the posting dates how much interest has been generated here. It has been the stance of management to lock down duplicate posts or threads (which yours is...). I have endeavored to give you space to try to ressurect this thread. Good luck!

On another note, Welcome to the Forum! I didn't want your first posting here to be locked as a duplicate...consider this a welcome aboard present! Off-topic: Do take time to familiarize yourself with the posted rules, etc. Check out the Library!

Sorcery has had quite a muddled time for any number of reasons, the least of which is the definition itself. Noone can seem to give a clear and concise meaning. There are well over a half dozen sites on the internet that are all too willing to give you their interpretation...yet they all disagree to some extent. Some simply state that Sorcery is the use of Magic amd/or mental ability brought to bear on the users self and universe in accordance to the users will and generally without the use of spells or magic ritual, ie by natural talent. Some consider Sorcery to be LHP working. There are many variations on the theme. If you read the aforementioned material then you can kind of see what I'm refering to. Perhaps your efforts here will be the necessary impetus needed to spark some interest. I leave it to you and whomever wishes to discourse upon the subject. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Then you can see by the posts and the posting dates how much interest has been generated here. It has been the stance of management to lock down duplicate posts or threads (which yours is...). I have endeavored to give you space to try to ressurect this thread. Good luck!

On another note, Welcome to the Forum! I didn't want your first posting here to be locked as a duplicate...consider this a welcome aboard present! Off-topic: Do take time to familiarize yourself with the posted rules, etc. Check out the Library!

Sorcery has had quite a muddled time for any number of reasons, the least of which is the definition itself. Noone can seem to give a clear and concise meaning. There are well over a half dozen sites on the internet that are all too willing to give you their interpretation...yet they all disagree to some extent. Some simply state that Sorcery is the use of Magic amd/or mental ability brought to bear on the users self and universe in accordance to the users will and generally without the use of spells or magic ritual, ie by natural talent. Some consider Sorcery to be LHP working. There are many variations on the theme. If you read the aforementioned material then you can kind of see what I'm refering to. Perhaps your efforts here will be the necessary impetus needed to spark some interest. I leave it to you and whomever wishes to discourse upon the subject. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Well, I didn't intend to make a duplicate thread, so sorry for that..
Thanks for you interpretation on the subject by the way!

I must admit - I am intrigued.

I am intrigued at how sorcery has not really become associated with a widely accepted paradigm amongst magick workers. Instead of there being any specific popular pathway associated with it, there seems to me mostly to be a common vague (and dubious) idea about sorcery being associated with the "left hand path" in various ways - but that is about it.

I am intrigued at how so few published authors seem to have attempted to design a comprehensive and comprehensible pathway for sorcery, and popularize it.

I also am intrigued that even amongst those who have rolled up their sleeves and made an attempt to sculpt some semantic clarification about it, what most often results seems to be a brief and basic outline that puts a few bare bone splinters together - yet does not really seem to add substantiative nerves, sinew, organs, and flesh that not only fails to be fresh, but also fails to be imbued with enough spirit to really come to life.

I suspect this is because, unlike so many other paradigms, a strange kind of accepted perspective seems to exist that sorcery really does not spring spawned from - and thethered to - any of the major pathways (like Enochian, Kabbalah, etc...) That thus seriously challenges any Paradigm Artisan that considers the endeavour to weave something solid for sorcery from the DNA up (so to speak) - instead of merely washing off the familiar, applying cosmetics to their old snouts, then putting on a song and dance spectacle with smoke and mirrors - in the attempt to pass off the hoary boar as a glamour girl.

I have to admit that the scope of this challenge perks my ears up with some interest.

This post has been edited by Praxis: Mar 6 2006, 06:14 PM

I That thus seriously challenges any Paradigm Artisan that considers the endeavour to weave something solid for sorcery from the DNA up (so to speak) - instead of merely washing off the familiar, applying cosmetics to their old snouts, then putting on a song and dance spectacle with smoke and mirrors - in the attempt to pass off the hoary boar as a glamour girl.

I have to admit that the scope of this challenge perks my ears up with some interest.

Originally I ascribed myself to toltec sorcery, and having mastered it to some extent, I have started my own website and am now in the process of creating a system of sorcery that is more accessible to the wider occult community. I've been working on it for awhile and have two dear apprentices that assist me (sometimes as guinie pigs... lol), one being a very talented sorcerress. I have to impress on you, however, sorcery cannot really be fathomed... only lived, i.e. it is not something that you consciously do, but rather something that you are.

Therefore I have now undertaken the tedious, but fun task of 'pigeon holing' it in such a way that the student, with time, discovers for himself/herself that it can't really be categorized, just as divinity cannot be comprehended in its full glory. We humans are just not cut out for shit like that, but... we can 'experience' divinity and that on its own gives one a very 'unique and personal' knowledge of it. This also applies to sorcery.

I will post edited versions of some of our work, as we progress, but needless to say, it will be many years before an entire functional and cohesive system can be presented... and even then it will not be completely accurate, because as I said before, trying to label it is like an attempt at classifying Divinity according to the four walls of a room.

We are trying our best though.

Ps. Since it looks like everyone here seems to be grappling at the concept... I could make a few posts on traditional sorcery (yes... there is indeed a backround to it) if you'd like??

This post has been edited by Psypocalypse: Jul 9 2006, 08:56 AM