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BloodArchon
post Aug 13 2006, 04:36 AM
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I am curious, not because I am a satanist but because I really would want to do this. I always here of people (usually satanists) selling their souls or making a pact with a demon or something but is it possible for another human to infact give away their soul to another? My reasons for wanting to know your opinion are quite private but I just am wondering what you think.


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post Aug 15 2006, 06:37 AM
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Certainly you can steal a soul. Soul = Purpose. Give your Purpose to 'Satan' and get some benefit in return. Theoretically.


I do not know for a fact vagrant dreamer that this is true. You state it, but that does not prove it or make it a fact. I do not wish to blindly believe what you state.
Its nice to support your opinion a little, to help us "lesser neophytes" understand.


Bloodarchon, to answer your question, first we must know what you mean by "the soul". Then we can perhaps answer if it is possible to steal someones soul.
But now we have no clue what the soul is.
It means so many different things in different schools of magick, there is no clear cut answer to this question, unless you specify wich soul you are talking about.


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post Aug 15 2006, 10:33 AM
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I do not know for a fact vagrant dreamer that this is true. You state it, but that does not prove it or make it a fact. I do not wish to blindly believe what you state.
Its nice to support your opinion a little, to help us "lesser neophytes" understand.


Bloodarchon, to answer your question, first we must know what you mean by "the soul". Then we can perhaps answer if it is possible to steal someones soul.
But now we have no clue what the soul is.
It means so many different things in different schools of magick, there is no clear cut answer to this question, unless you specify wich soul you are talking about.


I'd be curious to know where you believe karma originates, assuming you do believe in it. Pardon my conviction of statements, I've Seen my Soul. But of course you shouldn't blindly accept it - think it through on your own, then go See for yourself.

I do agree that it would be helpful to know what Bloodarchon means by 'Soul'. I'm sure there are lots of definitions. However, i'm willing to bet that when you boil down all the fancy jargon, it amounts to a simpler term - Purpose.

Also, I haven't referred to anyone as a "lesser neophyte," or see anyone here that way - Bloodarchon asked a question, and I answered it to the best of my ability and experience, which in this particular area happens to be considerable. You don't see me responding to posts on the enochian board - I don't practice or study enochian magick.

When I see a subject like this, forgive me if I feel some responsibility to relay my own experience and/or current theory.

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BloodArchon   Stealing Souls   Aug 13 2006, 04:36 AM
Vagrant Dreamer   I am curious, not because I am a satanist but beca...   Aug 13 2006, 09:49 AM
BloodArchon   Hahaha, thank you. But first off allow me to dispe...   Aug 13 2006, 01:42 PM
Angalor   Hahaha, thank you. But first off allow me to dispe...   Aug 13 2006, 04:14 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   Hahaha, thank you. But first off allow me to dispe...   Aug 13 2006, 04:50 PM
Beast   Hahaha, thank you. But first off allow me to dispe...   Jan 22 2007, 12:09 AM
Edunpanna   Greetings everyone, As I stated back in post 43 o...   Feb 2 2007, 09:35 PM
Alafair   [size=3][font=Verdana]Selling of souls is not an o...   Aug 14 2006, 02:18 AM
BloodArchon   Thank you for your opinions! :kicking: I am no...   Aug 14 2006, 07:53 AM
Vagrant Dreamer   Thank you for your opinions! :kicking: I am no...   Aug 14 2006, 12:19 PM
BloodArchon   My definition of a soul is the entity in side us t...   Aug 15 2006, 04:15 PM
Eroscupidonamor   Selling the soul,is selling your identity,your fre...   Aug 16 2006, 07:33 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   in that way, with enough energy i think it is poss...   Aug 16 2006, 09:06 AM
BloodArchon   That sounds very interesting...lol unfortunetly my...   Aug 17 2006, 04:35 PM
Wanderer   Perhaps you heard of this: Some guy was selling hi...   Aug 21 2006, 08:29 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   that is a form of ritual work you developed for ...   Aug 22 2006, 05:46 AM
diana   if 'soul' defined here is purpose(idea) or...   Aug 22 2006, 09:49 AM
BloodArchon   if 'soul' defined here is purpose(idea) or...   Aug 23 2006, 09:27 PM
diana   i dont believe in whole soul stealing idea like we...   Aug 24 2006, 07:57 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   Interesting, while i t think reprogramming someone...   Aug 25 2006, 06:39 AM
diana   :goodposting:   Aug 25 2006, 10:12 AM
BloodArchon   :offtopic: You know I cant help to notice that you...   Aug 26 2006, 03:16 AM
Seronleithian   :offtopic: You know I cant help to notice that you...   Sep 14 2006, 10:39 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   you confuse karma with a human sense of right and ...   Aug 26 2006, 07:46 AM
Vagrant Dreamer   yeah, I know lots of people who don't believe ...   Aug 26 2006, 09:20 AM
BloodArchon   lol I see...by posting that last post I posted I a...   Aug 26 2006, 12:39 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   lol I see...by posting that last post I posted I a...   Aug 26 2006, 06:28 PM
BloodArchon   Your right vagrant, I totally agree with you on th...   Aug 28 2006, 05:34 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   one could say it is a choice for the person to bel...   Aug 29 2006, 12:04 PM
motsie   In terms of karma, let's discard the adjective...   Sep 15 2006, 12:20 AM
Enkidu   Stealing someone's soul is possible but involv...   Sep 19 2006, 08:45 AM
Alafair   Soul stealing nowadays is big business, but from w...   Sep 19 2006, 01:45 PM
DeathStalker   Satan doesn't steal souls. I haven't heard...   Nov 3 2006, 05:36 PM
Ashnook   Only a human would want to in my honest opinion. ...   Nov 3 2006, 01:59 PM
Suxur-Mash596   Anyone out there that does want to steal souls is ...   Nov 3 2006, 05:52 PM
Acid09   I tend to follow VagrantDreamer on this one. If t...   Nov 15 2006, 03:31 PM
BloodArchon   Hmmm lol since I have started this post my views a...   Nov 16 2006, 08:05 PM
DeathStalker   Hmmm lol since I have started this post my views a...   Nov 17 2006, 12:26 AM
BloodArchon   If you agree with what I believe I actually have c...   Nov 21 2006, 08:48 PM
levannah60   Look, I'm new here, but I couldn't resist ...   Nov 27 2006, 05:36 PM
BloodArchon   It's known that you have to collect these thin...   Nov 30 2006, 10:37 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   Look, I'm new here, but I couldn't resist ...   Nov 30 2006, 10:57 PM
smasher666   Look, I'm new here, but I couldn't resist ...   Dec 1 2006, 12:02 AM
Xochipilli   Assuming youve given your soul/purpose over to som...   Dec 1 2006, 01:06 AM
smasher666   Greetings Xochipilli', Amphetamines and lack...   Dec 1 2006, 04:23 AM
Darkmage   My $2 after following this thread for a while...   Dec 1 2006, 06:23 AM
BloodArchon   He then said if I wanted to get rid of him I would...   Dec 2 2006, 01:23 AM
Enochian   Because it was not the devil it was a demon or neg...   Dec 2 2006, 06:34 PM
Giannis1972   Neophyte, Ego is the worst thing a magician could ...   Jan 19 2007, 04:11 AM
Enochian   I have yet to read the entire post. But i could no...   Jan 24 2007, 10:34 PM
Infinitus   You can steal a soul for purposes of good or for p...   Jan 25 2007, 12:38 AM
Vagrant Dreamer   You can steal a soul for purposes of good or for p...   Jan 25 2007, 11:30 AM
Enochian   I can only think of one Vagrant and its only myth....   Jan 25 2007, 02:27 PM
BloodArchon   Wha...? Let's consider that phrase for a secon...   Jan 29 2007, 04:49 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   Well vagrant, what about someone who is already ev...   Jan 29 2007, 05:23 PM
Alafair   What it comes down to is that 'stealing' a...   Feb 2 2007, 04:56 AM
Enochian   Like a bullet.....lol Stealing a soul. I can give...   Jan 29 2007, 05:39 PM
Enochian   Jesus died for us, a bunch of murderers and betray...   Feb 2 2007, 02:16 PM
BloodArchon   Jesus died for us, a bunch of murderers and betray...   Feb 2 2007, 04:20 PM
Enochian   I appose christianity also but not god and not the...   Feb 2 2007, 04:46 PM
Acid09   Enochian becareful you don't come off as overl...   Feb 2 2007, 07:14 PM
Enochian   I believe the soul can be "infiltrated" ...   Feb 2 2007, 07:37 PM
MOLOCH   The term 'selling your soul' is an inventi...   Feb 12 2007, 01:08 PM
BloodArchon   :D Im happy I made you smile...well since I start...   Mar 12 2007, 10:42 PM

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