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A_Smoking_Fox |
Aug 26 2006, 07:46 AM
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you confuse karma with a human sense of right and wrong. karma is universal, and not easily understood. before you claim to believe or not believe in something, you should research what it is al about. Karma is not really about direct action reaction. It is about a sort of balance scale inside your soul, which fluctuates depending on actions you take. The result of that balance draws certain experiences towards you and your soul, in this life and the next lives. A bad karma balance will tend to draw events of equal polarity towards you, thus bad events. This is just the gist of it, but it does not matter that much, because it is humanly impossible to be sure of the karma result of your actions. Unless your actions or magic only effect yourself, then the karma result is minimal. To a mage karma is more important than a normal person, a bad karma balance will slow down or stop your progress in magickal paths. Unless your working with such aligned, "dark" entities.
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Vagrant Dreamer |
Aug 26 2006, 09:20 AM
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yeah, I know lots of people who don't believe in karma. Yet there they are, struggling with the same issues and difficulties in life as everyone else.
I'll agree with smoking fox wholeheartedly here - to a mage, karma is more important than for a normal person. A mage is involved in the active pursuit of (some ascentive concept here). If you cannot identify, confront, and work out, your karma, you will only ever get so far in your magickal path before having to start over again.
I think it is tempting to believe in a purely subjective universe in which what you don't believe in has no power over you. But, have you considered the idea that maybe having a law such as karma in the universe, gives you a direct ladder to ascension? Those laws which seem to hold us down, are often found to be the foundation blocks upon which we must uild our temples - were there no such foundation, our temples would sink into the muck of the gross physical world.
At the risk of sounding like a traditionalist, there have been a whole lot of people, for many thousands of years, all seperately coming up with the same concepts through magickal work, journeying, divine communion, etc... they all understand a karmic balance even if they use different terminology. There's a whole lot of support for karma - what experiential proof do you have against it?
Like Fox says, do a little research, and you may come to understand the true nature of karma, or something close enough for mortal purposes. I had the same cause/effect notion of karma (do something bad, something bad will happen to you) originally as well, I think it's a western failing generally, but the actual mechanism is truly far more complex and interesting than social backlash.
peace
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The world is complicated - that which makes it up is elegantly simplistic, but infinitely versatile.
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