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New2theOccult
post Aug 26 2006, 05:46 PM
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This is something i'm interested in, i haven't worked with angels (yet anyway, or Goetic spirits, but i'd like to start), but i was just wondering, in your opinion or your UPGs (personal gnosis), what do you believe angels are, and, i know that Yahweh seems to have the majority of angels serving him/her, but do you think there are other gods that also have angels serving them (or do you think there are angels that are truly independent and act more like supernatural 'merceranries' and don't serve an deity/deities).

Also, i've read things that say that angels 'don't have free will' and only 'care' about humanity but i'm not sure if i'd believe that as i've heard that some angels can pretty much mess you up worse than Goetic demons (or any other demonic being, although i'm not sure if that's true).

Anyway, either in your own personal opinions/gnosis, or in your experiences, what do you think angels are and do you think they have a choice in what they do (and do they all serve Yahweh, or do some of them serve other deities, or even branch out on their own).

I think that angels may be a bit like humans (kind of, only more supernatural, with greater powers, etc but similar wants, needs, desires, feelings, etc), and that some may serve Yahweh (or whoever) and some may just branch out on there own, so to speak and do what they want. (It may sound dumb, though).

Anyway, i hope that made some sense and didn't sound too dumb.

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GaiusOctavian
post Aug 27 2006, 01:50 AM
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Spirits of any kind, in my opinion, are capable of free will. Spirits aren't "good", or "bad". They're capable of both, even god has a dark spirit, if you remember in the bible the dark or troublesome spirit (I'm not completely sure, I'll have to check my bible)of god, takes over Saul. Being a catholic, I take the traditional view of Angels being messengers of god & helpers of mankind, but that doesn't mean they're inherently good, or evil for that matter.Angels to me are like valkyries in the norse religion. One of the norse stories involves a valkyrie (Valkyries who are traditionaly just parts of Odin, like angels are supposed to be parts of god) going against Odin's wishes, and when she does that, she becomes independant from Odin & is no longer a part of him. I think Angels can do whatever they wish, look at Lucifer and his followers. Even after Lucifer is cast out of heaven you still read of him & god making bets & whatnot against one another. Meh, these are just my views, though.

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