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post Aug 27 2006, 11:53 AM
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Tetragrammaton and YHVH (yod heh vau heh) . . . .

I'm to understand that the reference "Tetragrammaton" and "YHVH" aren't necassarily the same thing.

Tetragrammaton is a greek word referring (occult-wise) to the four principal elemental components of the Divine Body
YHVH are the four-fold power of the body of the divine (GOD) in any particular manifest aspect. (a semetic/hebrew theological origin)

Is that right . . . the four-fold YaHoWaH and the (nearly barbarous name) Tetragrammaton aren't necassarily referring the the exact same concept ?

(this make sense in light of the Triangle of Art . . . though I'm not using the archangelic binding/controlling formula, only the three greek barbarous names of manifestation)

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Yes . . . I think I've heard something about the jews reserving the use of YHVH.
Although I'm pretty sure that was primarily verbal use that ADNI was one of the words they substatuted for it, and that they wrote YHVH all over the place.
As well, I'm almost positive that the greek concept of the four elements was either pre-platonic or Platonic (4th cent BC) and hellenistic period was 3rd-1st cent BC . . . . AND, I don't think that the Greek concept of the body-divine was only something they barrowed from that tiny little group of semetic semi-nomadic farmers . . .
We are, of course, agreed that Greece had a pretty thriving religious and magickal tradition all on its own without having to depend on Hebraic people . . . right.
(a voice of absolute conviction isn't that convincing)

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Since he is used in the triangle of art in the Tetragrammaton form i supose that YHVH being God's name - the most powerfull wouldn't allow the appearance of an evil spirit...so is replaced with the Teragrammaton...

I'm not really sure who the "he" is that your referring to. Certainly YHVH isn't the only god . . . .?

The barbarous names really have nothing to do with allowing or disallowing "evil spirits".

And thats specifically one of the issues here . . . I'ts not YHVH used in the Triangle formula. Its specifically not referring to that four-fold type of aspect of the semetic God. Its the four-element spiritual body that the Triangle formula calls on . . . Which does allow for "evil" spirits to appear.
(Erosc, maybe your not very familiar with this whole triangle thingy . . . its one of the 'tools' used in some older grimiores, like Lemegaton, as and aid and boundry for calling spirits. Particularly demons and evil spirits.)

And in coordination with the other three barbarous words (in the traditional triangle formula) its clearly not referring to a deity inparticular, but to one of three component (in a particular priority) for spiritual manifestation.

(anytime someone says "what I'm presenting is the only reality", makes me whince for the sake of the others that read that and might be inclined to believe it .... )


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palindroem   Tetragrammaton And Yhvh   Aug 27 2006, 11:53 AM
My Future Self   I've never heard the word Tetragrammaton refer...   Aug 27 2006, 03:30 PM
Eroscupidonamor   Indeed Tetragrammaton is YHVH and nothing else.......   Aug 27 2006, 07:04 PM
Eroscupidonamor   Well ,I'm well awear about the Triangle of the...   Aug 28 2006, 06:53 AM
palindroem   Thanks for your reply. Although they didn't p...   Aug 28 2006, 06:28 PM
Arcangle90   It was my understanding that YHVH was the inneffab...   Aug 29 2006, 06:25 AM
palindroem   YHVH is certainly reserved in orthodox Judism for ...   Aug 29 2006, 03:08 PM
Nero   Interesting idea, although I have never heard anyo...   Sep 5 2006, 07:34 AM
smasher666   Interesting idea, although I have never heard anyo...   Sep 5 2006, 01:43 PM
palindroem   Interesting idea, although I have never heard anyo...   Sep 7 2006, 03:39 PM
Nero   I'm certainly not trying to suggest that Tetra...   Sep 13 2006, 08:27 AM
palindroem   I see what you mean with the circle comparison . ....   Sep 14 2006, 03:28 PM
WillowDarkWytch   Tetragrammaton means litteraly "Four lettered...   Sep 20 2006, 12:50 AM
palindroem   Thanks W . . . Academically, tetragrammaton transl...   Sep 21 2006, 02:30 PM
Siamese   That's an interesting idea Palindroem and I de...   Sep 23 2006, 03:01 PM
palindroem   That's an interesting idea Palindroem and I de...   Sep 24 2006, 12:58 PM
Siamese   Good post Palindroem. However my research on the ...   Sep 24 2006, 02:40 PM
palindroem   :)   Sep 25 2006, 07:15 PM
Eroscupidonamor   There is no room for authority in occultism?!?...   Sep 27 2006, 04:30 AM
palindroem   "There is no room for authority in occultism...   Sep 27 2006, 05:07 AM
Frater SI   Eroscupidonamor While i respect your purist atti...   Sep 27 2006, 08:09 AM
Eroscupidonamor   Yes... the limits to our magic are indeed our own....   Sep 27 2006, 09:02 AM
Traveller   Hello all: I have always been curious about 'G...   Sep 27 2006, 11:26 PM
Frater SI   Interesting Theory :bigwink: AGLA is a notariqo...   Sep 28 2006, 01:51 AM
Siamese   It's true that we need some sort of Authority ...   Sep 28 2006, 01:55 AM
Frater SI   Siamese Well Put.. I always believe in Innovatio...   Sep 28 2006, 02:04 AM

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