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post Sep 6 2006, 05:12 PM
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hello i didnt know where else to post this
but it seemed to be the right place

has anyone besides myself awakened the otherkin inside of them


otherkin are people who believe or feel their spirit is not of this earth

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post Sep 8 2006, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(bleachXlight @ Sep 6 2006, 07:12 PM) *
hello i didnt know where else to post this
but it seemed to be the right place

has anyone besides myself awakened the otherkin inside of them
otherkin are people who believe or feel their spirit is not of this earth


Actually there are people who in a past life were not human but some form of spirit. An early mentor of mine once told me that some retarded and aultiustic children were not human in the past life but some form of spirit in the spirit realm. On first inspection it seems there can be nothing to validate such a claim. However he taught a healing technique which I have found very effective in stimulating the minds of retarded children.

Also I have heard much about Earth Bound Angels. Albeit not on this forum as of yet. Earth Bound Angels are humans that are part divine. These people although not creating bad karma seem to suffer much more than the rest of us. The suffering of the Earth Bound Angels is said to help pay some kind of debt for mankind as a whole. These people are said to have special powers such as healing.

Proving that a person is a reincarnated other world spirit is of course impossible. However it is probable this could actually happen and often has.

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post Sep 8 2006, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE(smasher666 @ Sep 8 2006, 06:15 PM) *
Actually there are people who in a past life were not human but some form of spirit. An early mentor of mine once told me that some retarded and aultiustic children were not human in the past life but some form of spirit in the spirit realm. On first inspection it seems there can be nothing to validate such a claim. However he taught a healing technique which I have found very effective in stimulating the minds of retarded children.

Also I have heard much about Earth Bound Angels. Albeit not on this forum as of yet. Earth Bound Angels are humans that are part divine. These people although not creating bad karma seem to suffer much more than the rest of us. The suffering of the Earth Bound Angels is said to help pay some kind of debt for mankind as a whole. These people are said to have special powers such as healing.

Proving that a person is a reincarnated other world spirit is of course impossible. However it is probable this could actually happen and often has.


That actually makes a great deal of sense... It seems to me that when we are outside of our temporal context, that is, 'in between' lives, the chunks of experience which do not take place incarnate as a human being on earth, could create psychological preferences towards the incarnations in which we managed to save a bit of identity after death. If some of those incarnations were as spirits, or entities other than human, then naturally when the soul is incarnate and recovers pieces of these lives, it creates a division between the context of the current incarnation and one's 'true' self.

I'm a shifter, myself - often categorized alongside otherkin, often referred to as 'Were' or Therian - 'phenotype' panther, and used to strongly identify with my animalistic side.

However, I found that allowing that portion of my consciousness to define who I was took away from the human experience of this incarnation. From my past experience speaking with other shifters (none of whom, I should mention, were people I actually met in person, save for two) a lot of individuals of this temperment call this period 'Integration'.

For myself, it became unhealthy to see myself as 'above' or 'beyond' this world, and to identify my own soul as 'outside' the realm of human experience. I found that it lead me towards a sense of superiority and hubris amongst my peers, and ultimately alienated me. Once I began to understand more of what it meant for me, what strengths and weaknesses is gave me, I accepted myself as fully human in the sense that I am as human as anyone else, and subject to the same regulations therein - I was simply aware of a broad spectrum of the experience already a part of my consciousness, and part of that awareness connected me to the animalistic energy included in my being.

I'm curious - in what fashion does your being Otherkin affect your consciousness that you are aware of? I am curious because speaking with other shifters helped me narrow down what was the 'classical' human awareness within my own scope of awareness, and which parts were the manifestations of my animal consciousness. I found that it became the best way to exemplify what I meant by 'shifter' when the subject arose.

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post Sep 11 2006, 09:39 AM
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QUOTE(Vagrant Dreamer @ Sep 8 2006, 09:49 PM) *
That actually makes a great deal of sense... It seems to me that when we are outside of our temporal context, that is, 'in between' lives, the chunks of experience which do not take place incarnate as a human being on earth, could create psychological preferences towards the incarnations in which we managed to save a bit of identity after death. If some of those incarnations were as spirits, or entities other than human, then naturally when the soul is incarnate and recovers pieces of these lives, it creates a division between the context of the current incarnation and one's 'true' self.

I'm a shifter, myself - often categorized alongside otherkin, often referred to as 'Were' or Therian - 'phenotype' panther, and used to strongly identify with my animalistic side.

However, I found that allowing that portion of my consciousness to define who I was took away from the human experience of this incarnation. From my past experience speaking with other shifters (none of whom, I should mention, were people I actually met in person, save for two) a lot of individuals of this temperment call this period 'Integration'.

For myself, it became unhealthy to see myself as 'above' or 'beyond' this world, and to identify my own soul as 'outside' the realm of human experience. I found that it lead me towards a sense of superiority and hubris amongst my peers, and ultimately alienated me. Once I began to understand more of what it meant for me, what strengths and weaknesses is gave me, I accepted myself as fully human in the sense that I am as human as anyone else, and subject to the same regulations therein - I was simply aware of a broad spectrum of the experience already a part of my consciousness, and part of that awareness connected me to the animalistic energy included in my being.

I'm curious - in what fashion does your being Otherkin affect your consciousness that you are aware of? I am curious because speaking with other shifters helped me narrow down what was the 'classical' human awareness within my own scope of awareness, and which parts were the manifestations of my animal consciousness. I found that it became the best way to exemplify what I meant by 'shifter' when the subject arose.

peace



Interesting association of "shifter". I have always found the ability to shift can be a learned skill. In fact, it is told that many Druid Priests could shift. The ability to shape shift would not necessarily make one Otherkin. Although, if you are a Changeling, shifting (through use of Glamour) would come naturally. The term Otherkin has been tossed around a lot in the last 10 years. I have usually heard it used to describe those who considered themselves Elves, Fae, Dwarves, Dragons, etc reincarnated into human form. While I do not discount this theory, I theorize that the soul has not true form, but is only shaped by the will of it's conciousness, and that it is possible that one could have held and existance as an "otherkin" but they're soul does not differ from one that is incarneted as human (save specific knowledges gained through otherkin existance).


Smasher666: Do you possibly have a link to more information regarding the Angels you speak of?

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QUOTE(Makavelli @ Sep 11 2006, 11:39 AM) *
Interesting association of "shifter". I have always found the ability to shift can be a learned skill. In fact, it is told that many Druid Priests could shift. The ability to shape shift would not necessarily make one Otherkin. Although, if you are a Changeling, shifting (through use of Glamour) would come naturally. The term Otherkin has been tossed around a lot in the last 10 years. I have usually heard it used to describe those who considered themselves Elves, Fae, Dwarves, Dragons, etc reincarnated into human form. While I do not discount this theory, I theorize that the soul has not true form, but is only shaped by the will of it's conciousness, and that it is possible that one could have held and existance as an "otherkin" but they're soul does not differ from one that is incarneted as human (save specific knowledges gained through otherkin existance).
Smasher666: Do you possibly have a link to more information regarding the Angels you speak of?


Well, this is the reason that I no longer generally identify as primarily a shifter. But, as i understand it, assuming the essence of any god/creature/etc., on the spiritual level is the same thing as being otherkin/shifter - people who naturally identify as Otherkin or Shifters have this quality inherently from the beginning, before training and exploration into any such art.

Being a part of the universal source, the consciousness of creation, I have access to memories of any form of existence, if I can identify what i'm looking for. Being able to access memories through exploration, of a life as a dragon, elf, badger, or little julie nixon down the street, I may as well be their reincarnation (even though little julie nixon is still living).

However, when we come into this incarnation, I think that the structure of your ego, which at its essence is your incarnation, is going to naturally have a sympathetic vibration to some scope of the experience within existence. Since you are, thus, an extension of that mode of energy, those structures which together make up the pattern of a 'life' which we interpret as memories of a life outside and, we therefore assume, before our current context. If you are born into an incarnation in which one or more of your three bodies shares a sympathetic vibration to the part of creation which is an elven/draconic/etc. existence, then your consciousness has direct initial access to those 'memories' and you assume a context relevant to those memories, and this manifests itself as self-identification as otherkin, shifter, earth angel, etc., ad infinitum...

I think that this predisposition is worth transcending, personally, because no matter how broad your scope of context is, bigger is better.

But, in any case, anyone can become otherkin, if being otherkin means having memories or feelings of a past life as another 'fantastic' species; similarly for shifters, therians, etc. Identifying oneself as either naturally implies an innate quality to the experience. Not all people are born with such a predisposition, and so a label evolves to create a social partition.

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