The Watcher Bandar, Questions / Ask Here Experiances / Tell Here Options

Hello,

I am new to the Necronomicon and have been researching the tome for over three months. Since I am well-versed in Ceremonial Magick, I found the idea of the Watcher quite fascinating.

It is remarkable how the tome almost promises that this being will indeed show up after you invoke it--immediately after, that is. It says, "At this point the watcher WILL SURELY (emphasis added) come and WILL (emphasis added) stand outside the Gate or Circle until shuch time as he is given the lisence to depart etc" that is found on page 73 of the Simon Necronomicon.

It was also interesting to note that in some instances it will appear in the form of a "fierce dog" and that the presence of this being is to be feared. Since I have an understanding of the evocation of the spirits, one of the necessary components of a worthwhile evocation is making a connection with the spirit (in whatever way the magician sees fit). But in this case there really is no preparation at all. I mean, you call the Watcher and he appears or manifests after the magician makes the necessary preparations with the offerings etc.

My question is for those who have a deeper understanding of the Necronomicon. When you invoked the Watcher for the first time did he manifest slowly or show up immediately? In other words, did you have to call him up several times (as is the case with stubborn spirits) or did invoking him once do the trick? Is this an instance of magick where all one has to do is basically call forth the being and "beleive it to be there" (like is the case with archangelic invocations and calling forth the elements) or does the priest actually have to get it to physically manifest? In the case of archangelic invocations after some time their presence becomes very powerful, indeed. Does the Watcher manifest every time when invoked (is it a mechanic process)? Or does the Watcher need repeated conjurations or invocations to arrive? Is one reading of the invocation enough to get the Watcher to arrive or do you need to call it again and again to make sure "it's there physically?" Does the magician need an assurance of the presence of the Watcher or is just calling him and beleiving he is there sufficient enough? I mean, it's not necessarily an evocation. It's an invocation that can turn into an instance of an evocation. Fascinating! I would love to hear your thoughts and experiences.

I am still trying to understand the nature of these beings. Any help would be most appreciated.

Good day to you and yours,

Mr. Curi

In the book of the Necronomicon say to use the Copper Dagger of Inanna to recite the normal invocation of the watcher and then stab the sword of Bandar on the ground. I am not sure how the knife of Enki looks like cause I just started to work with the Necronomicon even thow I have read and have the book nearly over 9 years. I am sure Smasher, Ashnook or Seraphim can help you on this topic, and might help you construct the knife of Enki.

In the book of the Necronomicon say to use the Copper Dagger of Inanna to recite the normal invocation of the watcher and then stab the sword of Bandar on the ground. I am not sure how the knife of Enki looks like cause I just started to work with the Necronomicon even thow I have read and have the book nearly over 9 years. I am sure Smasher, Ashnook or Seraphim can help you on this topic, and might help you construct the knife of Enki.

Here is a pic of my knife of Enki. It is actually not in the book. I created it for the Enki conjurations and conjuration of Enki gate. Those conjurations are not in the book either. I created them also. The signs to put on the knife are barashakushu the 3 signs of Mashu and the number 40.

It is currently in my head to create a knife of Anu of calling. I am waiting for the knife to come mysteriously into my life. I.e. I am somewhere and stumble over an awesome knofe and feel possessed to buy it.

Peace

This post has been edited by smasher666: Sep 13 2006, 07:06 PM