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The Costs Of Magick, Is a ritual and a sacrifice really enough? |
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Jul 18 2006, 05:21 PM
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All magick has a cost. A lot of practitioners can psychologically negotiate around them, so they say - I was certainly of that temperment when I first began exploring magick, I wanted something for nothing. But sometimes we have a hard time knowing what's required of us by whatever force we're invoking, and we aren't sure what to give in exchange. Are sacrifices of material things enough? Incense to 'feed' the spiritual force? Our immediate time and attention to give moments of our own life over to magickal purpose? There may be small costs to gain immediate gratification of our intentions, but is that all it really costs?
I've been in the mood to ask myself these questions, lately, and as my professed paradigm dictates, I began to observe.
For context, here's my recent journey through life in a nutshell.
When I left home, I moved in with a friend and her family, and they took care of me. Then I moved in with a partner who was a few years older than me, and he took care of me. Then we moved back to my hometown, moved in with my friend, and by and large, they paid all the bills. Then my friend and i moved back into our respective homes, and then eventually I moved out of my home and into hers to live with their family again.
It began to be obvious that I was not doing a good job of learning how to support myself, and that I had nothing to rely on but these other people. That was the first instance in which I used magick which was singularly for self-growth, and no immediate gratification.
First of all, my journey since that moment, has been more magickal, more filled with signs and synchronicities, more interesting experiences in consciousness and psychological developement, than any period in my life. Now, before this period I was already tapping the Source - connecting to the divine intelligence - to about half the degree that I do now, and much of my essential paradigm remains the same. Parts have been expanded upon, and more thoroughly digested, so that I know now much more than my younger self did. I had achieved lots of magickal successes by that point, but in quality they lacked the 'force' that my successes have now. They're more impactful now.
Then, the cost of magick seemed to be simply the way it would impact your life, and could be negotiated simply by dealing intelligently with that effect, and trying to predict ahead of time the areas that it could affect you, and how to prepare in advance. Now I see it the same way, but I've started to think that negotiating it like that, viewing it as how to avoid the cost, has actually cheated me out of a lot of growth in the past.
I did magick to cut myself off from the negative influences in my life, so that I could begin fullfilling my potential as quickly as possible. Given my situation it was a success, I was 'freed' from my home, which was stifling me bit by bit - and in retrospect I would have grown far more if I had immediately gotten serious about life, and really done my best to be independant; instead I coasted on the new found freedom until I hit a point where I would have to get serious, but instead I negotiated myself into a position where i could be free in one sense, and not have to deal with the responsibility. Now, looking back at what choices I made and why, I realize that I had actually lost the most important part of that freedom by avoiding the initial cost - my immature attitude about life.
I did magick for love. It seemed to be the appropriate next step, and my magick for freedom had worked so well. And I had love, coming in from boys everywhere. Again, I was unwilling to accept the way love would impact my life, so I negotiated by manipulating the people that fell in love with me to being more like entertainment than relationships. Eventually I forgot to learn the lesson that love is supposed to teach, and am still working on getting it back, the hard way.
I did magick for power, and I was given respect by my peers, adoration by my teachers, and a voice that made everyone sure I was right. When the impact happened, I negotiated my way around the responsibility of that identity in life, using that same gift to alleivate that responsibility for the things I said or did. But eventually, my manipulation became lying, and eventually that collapsed, and I no longer had those gifts.
And I had very little powerful magick after that. At this point is when I began to explore deeply the understanding of consciousness that I have now - While I probably wasn't consciously aware of it then, I had recieved a harsh punishment for abusing the gifts I demanded, and giving nothing in return. That punishment, however, redirected my interests inward rather than outward, and I became more diligent with my analysis of myself, no longer overly concerned with expressing myself, so much as learning what it was I was expressing. So my innate energy for exploration was forcefully redirected towards personal growth. I could have maybe used it for some other sort of exploration, drugs, crime, etc... but I was also in a position where those things weren't within easy reach, and so far I hadn't developed the ability to 'reach' for anything in life - I had skipped those lessons that were the cost of my magick.
And when i reached the limit of that growth, or what seemed to be in any case, when the world around me had become stagnant, and i was quickly stagnating with it, that is when I did magick for no other reason than to know what I needed to do to grow out of it, away from it.
And what I got, was a crash course in the same lessons I avoided before, but instead of getting the gains, I was just paying off my debt. I got freedom, in a position where not taking it seriously would get me homeless. I got Love, from someone who I owed a debt to, and who I lived with, and who I didn't really know enough to be sure that he would never let me live on the street. he made me carry my weight, so I was given a 'guide' through my task, in effect, and he gave me the fear that I needed to straighten up, since I didn't know for sure he would just leave me behind if I was a burden. In other words this love wasn't under my control. Finally, I was exposed to a culture of people who are inherently distrustful. So, I had to learn how to fulfill a good ethical code when it came to dealing with people, and never abuse the respect I work to gain.
I had to do the work as it was put in front of me to fulfill those tasks, and now, two years after coming to new york, I am on the bring of really and truly being on my own, independant, for the first time ever. And, it occurred to me that there is a bit of fear there, during meditation today. The fear of not being prepared enough, not having learned my lessons well enough, to exercise the gifts effectively in life, yet. And, following this observation was the thought that I should use that fear to do well. it is worth noting, I think, that the meditation was an excercise for recalling the various seals in the Necronomicon, the most recent of which had been Asarualim, following the construction of the composite seal on the cover of the necromonicon, the Arra/Agga/bandar glyph. As soon as that thought crossed my mind, of using my fear, a counterthought intervened comparing the use of fear as the use of the 'darkside' which is a relative term for an aspect of my paradigm on how we derive motivation in life, from a magickal perspective. That if I am to truly give my intentions over to the 'light' or the opposing archetype to the 'dark' in whatever form, then it seems i should derive motivation from the deliberate want to do well. And then all this thought of the costs of magick occured, and I followed it through my life for a time, being shown the places in which costs were incurred, and not paid, and the places where the gifts had been taken away and how.
Now, by now i've learned those lessons, at least as much as i can learn them where i am - the only way up, is up. So, I think I was finally able to see and understand more thoroughly how magick has affected my life, and how the laws have manifested themselves. It occurred to me to post it here because when I was an initiate cruising the 'net to find out all I could about the things i couldn't buy books on at my local bookstore. I wanted experiences, and effective magick, and wanted to see opinions and examples that weren't written down anywhere. And in all that, all the talk of costs was vague, and there were theories on how to avoid costs, theories about how karma doesn't exist, and they were so specific. it didn't occur to me then that wanting something for nothing is selfish. There is no balance. It's okay to be selfish, I think, in your magickal desires, certainly the desire to grow is selfish to some point of views, but if it is balanced with surrender and selflessness, work for the sake of work, doing well for the sake of doing well, balances that selfishness out.
This was all stuff no one taught me when I was a wee magician.
And it's worth mentioning, of course, that all of this stuff is going to happen in everyone's life. We're all offered the oppurtunity to learn lessons in life, it's why we're here, to understand. Spirituality is about exploring those lessons as they come, and using them to grow - magick is about Asking for those lessons, even if you don't know that's what you're asking for (because let's face it, your higher consciousness doesn't want material things...) and the cost of getting them is understanding what they teach and shouldering that responsibility wisely.
it's repeated everywhere, over and over again, that magick should be used responsibly, that you have to live the magick you work, that you get bad karma for bad magick, it's been said in a million different ways, but when it's explained, for some reason it's usually is something incredibly vague, and there is rarely talk of what happens when you do get around the cost.
hope someone gets something out of this post, sometime.
peace B
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alin |
Sep 14 2006, 02:17 PM
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Well the issue was that wealth can spare me a lot of problems , not necesarrily as an objective in life but as a barrier from the pointless worries of money.If i was wealthy then I could focus on more important things in life , lack of money can destroy you.I remember some neighbours of mine both of them had a kid before they got married and then they fought about who's kid ate most. I don't belive we were born to suffer , I don't think I have to be poor and live in a stick hut to achieve spirituality. I don't think any of us are meant to suffer.There is some default pain , for example when you learn to play guitar you get bruised fingertips.
Why do I want to go to England ? Hmmm ... well maybe because I live in Romania , a third world country filled with lies , corruption and violence . It's no plave for spiritual peace , and the people here are mostly very conservative , so it's hard to mention magic without being regarded a demon worshiper or something.In villages they still burn the hearts of those recently dead , believd to be vampires.And then they drink it with water.
Why did I choose England , because it's a step forward from many points of view.
But let's get back to the costs of magic.Why do I feel proud for not retaliating when I got bullied , because I was smart enough to turn the other cheek. If I'm not mistaken a lot of holy books mention that form the Bible to the budhist writings.In my opinion if you had a though childhood you get a better adult life , you "pay" then.
Take for example Oprah , she lived in a very very poor ghetto area , and now she's a billionare.It's very impressive and I think it's just an example.We all pay somehow. Take any proffesional in any sport , they are very fit but that lives little time for knowledge , so they lack it , but contrary to what people think they are not stupid , they just know other things.
You can see this as a game RPG , if you played one.You have experiance and you can only learn 10 things out of 100 per character , the same is true with life.Time is the most valued resource , if you waste it on making money you have none to invest in bettering yourself spiritually.
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Vagrant Dreamer |
Sep 14 2006, 03:05 PM
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QUOTE(alin @ Sep 14 2006, 04:17 PM) Well the issue was that wealth can spare me a lot of problems , not necesarrily as an objective in life but as a barrier from the pointless worries of money.If i was wealthy then I could focus on more important things in life , lack of money can destroy you.I remember some neighbours of mine both of them had a kid before they got married and then they fought about who's kid ate most. I don't belive we were born to suffer , I don't think I have to be poor and live in a stick hut to achieve spirituality. I don't think any of us are meant to suffer.There is some default pain , for example when you learn to play guitar you get bruised fingertips. It's true, we are not meant to suffer, but we are meant to struggle. Of course you don't have to be pious and pietous to be spiritual, you're right. However, placing our intention and will towards something external of ourselves in order to attain something, will gain you something that is seperate from yourself, and can therefore be lost or taken. By seeking to do magick which changes Us, and by making 'tactical' changes to our psyche, transforming who we are, our magick achieves us something that can never be taken or lost, and will always thereafter be a part of our arsenal. Who is better off, a man with the creativity to create abundance in his life forever, or a man who won a million dollars at the lottery? Of course you also want to be a musician. But, if you are splitting your magickal will between attaining wealth and becoming a musician, then you are only pursuing either at 'half power', and one of them is an empty endeavor. QUOTE Why do I want to go to England ? Hmmm ... well maybe because I live in Romania , a third world country filled with lies , corruption and violence . It's no plave for spiritual peace , and the people here are mostly very conservative , so it's hard to mention magic without being regarded a demon worshiper or something.In villages they still burn the hearts of those recently dead , believd to be vampires.And then they drink it with water. Alright, I'm an american, so I'll admit that I don't know what it's like to live and grow in a situation exactly like that. However, for one thing, it is never necessary for you to mention to anyone that you practice magick or even think about it, unless your seeking guidance from someone you already trust, or providing guidance to someone else. Appreciate that you were born into a world with the internet. While I haven't lived in a third world country, I have been homeless, I have gone weeks eating nothing but beans, and i've been in parts of my country where people are also violently conservative. Poverty and backwards people may be concentrated in some areas, but it does exist everywhere, in the cracks of society between the parts with power. Every place is a place for spiritual peace. The value of observing the inherent beauty of the human system, both its good parts and the bad, and finding the silver lining in our own personal situation in life, is greatly underestimated by today's magicians. Positive feelings with labels as specific as love, compassion, appreciation, and faith, are sidestepped, i think because much of today's occult youth feel that such words are too soft and not cool enough. However, it is only when you embrace these ideals, when you can observe the beauty of your own situation - not as a social class, not as part of a situation beyond your own perspective - that you can connect to the underlying current that has put you into existence, into motion, in that situation so that you will have all of the resources, information, and opportunity, that you will need to survive and evolve, and impact the world in a positive way. This is the system of existence, and it is designed to progress forward, so there is always a way to progress forward in life, and in society, for all of mankind. It is our folly to ignore that connection, and to try and do it on our own, not admitting that we need help. Magick is about engaging that current, and to do that, you have to connect. Your situation sucks, I know that I personally would hate to be where you are, no one likes to take on more struggle. But, none the less, love the world around you, see it's beauty, consciously, and everything that you want in life will be provided to you, if you will open your heart, follow your instincts, and watch the world around you for the signs. QUOTE But let's get back to the costs of magic.Why do I feel proud for not retaliating when I got bullied , because I was smart enough to turn the other cheek. If I'm not mistaken a lot of holy books mention that form the Bible to the budhist writings.In my opinion if you had a though childhood you get a better adult life , you "pay" then.
Take for example Oprah , she lived in a very very poor ghetto area , and now she's a billionare.It's very impressive and I think it's just an example.We all pay somehow. Take any proffesional in any sport , they are very fit but that lives little time for knowledge , so they lack it , but contrary to what people think they are not stupid , they just know other things.
You can see this as a game RPG , if you played one.You have experiance and you can only learn 10 things out of 100 per character , the same is true with life.Time is the most valued resource , if you waste it on making money you have none to invest in bettering yourself spiritually. I didn't ask why you felt proud. I asked what it was that made you associate that experience with the cost of the magick you are doing now. And it's true, we pay for our progress with pain. But that doesn't mean that if you have a hard childhood you'll be rich. It means that if you have a hard youth, then you have a lot of oppurtunity to learn and grow, and master your self and your abilities, as they will be constantly challenged with adversity. Because we endure - if we endure, and keep our purpose firmly in mind while we negotiate a difficult world - we are 'rewarded' by the causal current with wisdom, knowledge, and power. But, this is inner power, the ability to manifest the life that we want by keeping our intentions firmly in mind, and having the energy to pay attention to the current in the world around us to recognize the oppurtunities that will be presented to us in order to fullfill our intentions. The intention is the navigation, the 'spell' we cast - our actions are the engine of that magick. As we become wise, we understsand the signs more readily, as we attain knowledge, we are able to effect more efficient change, and as we master this wisdom and knowledge, we gain the power wielded by a true adept. If you use this strategy for attaining money in life, then you are learning the same things that you would be learning otherwise - the ability to observe the Causal Current, the Subtle universe, recognize what it is telling you, and acting on it impeccably. Think creatively, expand your opinions. Change your mind about things every couple of weeks. Get as much perspective as you can, and do not waste any time. If you are serious about changing your life, then you can do it at any time you want to if you are willing to apply yourself 100% of the time and take advantage of every oppurtunity. It is taxing, and tiring, and you will see why they say it requires so much energy to exist in this state of engagement all of the time. Its an equation. Magick is perfectly geometric and exact, like math. Like math, if we leave unknown variables unknown and expect the equation to just balance out on it's own, then the answer will be unclear. Do magick for self transformation, it's just my opinion, but you don't have time to waste using magick to attain anything outside of yourself. All that aside, you did request someone's judgement. Ultimately, it's your life, your magick, your purpose. You can't help but follow the current, but you can choose to use it's momentum to your advantage, or just wash down the river hoping to bump into something good. All the decisions have to be yours, all this is just my take. peace
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Vagrant Dreamer The Costs Of Magick Jul 18 2006, 05:21 PM Radiant Star :goodposting:
Its almost criminal to post after ... Aug 7 2006, 04:28 PM Makavelli Excellent example of the cost of cutting corners. ... Aug 9 2006, 09:21 AM Vagrant Dreamer Excellent example of the cost of cutting corners. ... Aug 9 2006, 10:38 AM Makavelli You are, of course correct in many regards. I too... Aug 10 2006, 02:18 PM Vagrant Dreamer The word "hubris" is foreign to me. Pra... Aug 10 2006, 10:09 PM Makavelli
Mistaken on all counts. Not to argue with you,... Aug 11 2006, 09:11 AM Qcks :hmm:
In keeping with the thread title, i find t... Aug 20 2006, 05:29 PM Caliginos More recently (read as thursday...) i was experime... Aug 21 2006, 12:58 PM Acid09 The problem with magick is how little we actually ... Aug 28 2006, 04:13 PM alin May I ask for your judgement in my actions ?
For ... Sep 14 2006, 04:34 AM Vagrant Dreamer May I ask for your judgement in my actions ?
For ... Sep 14 2006, 11:46 AM alin Look I'm not looking for a handout , I'm j... Sep 15 2006, 07:20 AM Vagrant Dreamer
Look I'm not looking for a handout , I'm ... Sep 15 2006, 01:15 PM alin Well thank you.I'm looking forward to practici... Sep 16 2006, 01:42 PM
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