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post Oct 3 2006, 02:22 PM
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Ive read somewhere that if you close your eyes and visualise a temple with your astral eye, imagine light entering from above filling it with energy, this will give you extra energy. Just been thinking about conjuring energy for something other than myself to use. Does anybody know this way of working if so could you post here please?

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post Oct 5 2006, 08:43 AM
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(this is only congruent with MY personal experience/practice)

I work with two different forms of astral projection.
One where I develope my astral body (BoL) and project in it into the greater astral.
Another where I develop an astral context (environment) within my personal "astral field" and operate within that

For me, these are very different astral planes and methods of operating. In one I am pressing out of my "sphere of influence" in a body, in the other I am creating a landscape entirely within my sphere.
(sorta 'As above, so below'... and vise-versa)
These are very seperate phenomona . . (although I think they do 'bleed' into each other . . . somehow).

I'm not sure where the energy that can be induced in MY astral temple comes from (maybe the above 'bleeding'?) . . .
but I know that it can be directed and formed like any other energy (just in larger quantities). For example, I've used it for healing someone. (of at least to assist in the healing process)

No, I haven't found a way to 'make it permenant'. I'm not sure if there is anything truely permenant in an astral environment. I'm sure that if I continued to work with it for a VERY long period with great regularity . . . it would be less transient.

But, in both approaches . . . I start the work as an imaginative process. All is Mind. Thoughts are things. Imagination is the threashold to the astral.

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post Oct 6 2006, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(palindroem @ Oct 5 2006, 03:43 PM) *
(this is only congruent with MY personal experience/practice)

I work with two different forms of astral projection.
One where I develope my astral body (BoL) and project in it into the greater astral.
Another where I develop an astral context (environment) within my personal "astral field" and operate within that

For me, these are very different astral planes and methods of operating. In one I am pressing out of my "sphere of influence" in a body, in the other I am creating a landscape entirely within my sphere.
(sorta 'As above, so below'... and vise-versa)
These are very seperate phenomona . . (although I think they do 'bleed' into each other . . . somehow).

I'm not sure where the energy that can be induced in MY astral temple comes from (maybe the above 'bleeding'?) . . .
but I know that it can be directed and formed like any other energy (just in larger quantities). For example, I've used it for healing someone. (of at least to assist in the healing process)

No, I haven't found a way to 'make it permenant'. I'm not sure if there is anything truely permenant in an astral environment. I'm sure that if I continued to work with it for a VERY long period with great regularity . . . it would be less transient.

But, in both approaches . . . I start the work as an imaginative process. All is Mind. Thoughts are things. Imagination is the threashold to the astral.



You say about a sphere, is this one youve constructed? How can you see it whilst in your body too?
How could you use it for healing someone, what are your thoughts on this?

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post Oct 6 2006, 06:53 PM
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QUOTE(Coffee @ Oct 6 2006, 06:33 PM) *
You say about a sphere, is this one youve constructed? How can you see it whilst in your body too?
How could you use it for healing someone, what are your thoughts on this?


(there can be a few more valid replies for this then there are people considering it . . . I Know Nothing!)
No, the "sphere" I refer to, often called the "sphere of sensation", is a label (in occult theory) for the immediate energy body of the magician . . . the aura. I tend to consider it (physically) the extent to which my etheric body extends. Its the "place" where my "self" buffers and interacts with the greater energetic world. . . and the transitioning mechinism between my energetic body and the greater astral.
Within it, my "sphere of influence", is my etheric body, my physical body and my inner astral. (I don't know how any "higher" energetic bodies co-operate in this model)
Its the personal environment that we operate within . . . its my interactive field for understanding the "real" world.
Its my lense and medium.
(???)

I don't really understand the part about seeing it (or at least I don't know how to reply to that)

For healing . . . ? . . . what do you mean . . . "it"...?


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post Oct 7 2006, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE(palindroem @ Oct 7 2006, 01:53 AM) *
(there can be a few more valid replies for this then there are people considering it . . . I Know Nothing!)
No, the "sphere" I refer to, often called the "sphere of sensation", is a label (in occult theory) for the immediate energy body of the magician . . . the aura. I tend to consider it (physically) the extent to which my etheric body extends. Its the "place" where my "self" buffers and interacts with the greater energetic world. . . and the transitioning mechinism between my energetic body and the greater astral.
Within it, my "sphere of influence", is my etheric body, my physical body and my inner astral. (I don't know how any "higher" energetic bodies co-operate in this model)
Its the personal environment that we operate within . . . its my interactive field for understanding the "real" world.
Its my lense and medium.
(???)



Sorry to keep asking questions but sometimes things arnt understood too well. You could say something round but is it an orange or tomatoe. I think I see things in a different way but then I dont really know anything myself.
Correct me if im wrong of course but when you say of the shpere that sort of sounds to me like the shpere I know of that encompases all bodies?
Although as I say I dont know myself, but then I see the gray energy around my body that extends only a centemeter as a body that hosts these other bodies that can exist anywhere across space and time. I've seen something that I think ive read too and that is that one day I was smoking a spliff and my mother walked into the garden, when I looked at her I saw a few inches away from the gray energy a different aura which had multiple colors, a few inches away from that I saw a 2D outline. So I guess to think that there are many parts of the aura that exist in other dimensions/planes. Not too sure what to think.

Besides that I'm not too sure what to think when it comes to the astral. I've been astral but here when I accidentally died before. I've been to the lower astral, but what are you refering as the greater astral?

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