Conjure Energy, astral working of Options

Ive read somewhere that if you close your eyes and visualise a temple with your astral eye, imagine light entering from above filling it with energy, this will give you extra energy. Just been thinking about conjuring energy for something other than myself to use. Does anybody know this way of working if so could you post here please?

Thanks.

(this is only congruent with MY personal experience/practice)

I work with two different forms of astral projection.
One where I develope my astral body (BoL) and project in it into the greater astral.
Another where I develop an astral context (environment) within my personal "astral field" and operate within that

For me, these are very different astral planes and methods of operating. In one I am pressing out of my "sphere of influence" in a body, in the other I am creating a landscape entirely within my sphere.
(sorta 'As above, so below'... and vise-versa)
These are very seperate phenomona . . (although I think they do 'bleed' into each other . . . somehow).

I'm not sure where the energy that can be induced in MY astral temple comes from (maybe the above 'bleeding'?) . . .
but I know that it can be directed and formed like any other energy (just in larger quantities). For example, I've used it for healing someone. (of at least to assist in the healing process)

No, I haven't found a way to 'make it permenant'. I'm not sure if there is anything truely permenant in an astral environment. I'm sure that if I continued to work with it for a VERY long period with great regularity . . . it would be less transient.

But, in both approaches . . . I start the work as an imaginative process. All is Mind. Thoughts are things. Imagination is the threashold to the astral.

This post has been edited by palindroem: Oct 5 2006, 08:47 AM

(this is only congruent with MY personal experience/practice)

I work with two different forms of astral projection.
One where I develope my astral body (BoL) and project in it into the greater astral.
Another where I develop an astral context (environment) within my personal "astral field" and operate within that

For me, these are very different astral planes and methods of operating. In one I am pressing out of my "sphere of influence" in a body, in the other I am creating a landscape entirely within my sphere.
(sorta 'As above, so below'... and vise-versa)
These are very seperate phenomona . . (although I think they do 'bleed' into each other . . . somehow).

I'm not sure where the energy that can be induced in MY astral temple comes from (maybe the above 'bleeding'?) . . .
but I know that it can be directed and formed like any other energy (just in larger quantities). For example, I've used it for healing someone. (of at least to assist in the healing process)

No, I haven't found a way to 'make it permenant'. I'm not sure if there is anything truely permenant in an astral environment. I'm sure that if I continued to work with it for a VERY long period with great regularity . . . it would be less transient.

But, in both approaches . . . I start the work as an imaginative process. All is Mind. Thoughts are things. Imagination is the threashold to the astral.

You say about a sphere, is this one youve constructed? How can you see it whilst in your body too?
How could you use it for healing someone, what are your thoughts on this?

You say about a sphere, is this one youve constructed? How can you see it whilst in your body too?
How could you use it for healing someone, what are your thoughts on this?

(there can be a few more valid replies for this then there are people considering it . . . I Know Nothing!)
No, the "sphere" I refer to, often called the "sphere of sensation", is a label (in occult theory) for the immediate energy body of the magician . . . the aura. I tend to consider it (physically) the extent to which my etheric body extends. Its the "place" where my "self" buffers and interacts with the greater energetic world. . . and the transitioning mechinism between my energetic body and the greater astral.
Within it, my "sphere of influence", is my etheric body, my physical body and my inner astral. (I don't know how any "higher" energetic bodies co-operate in this model)
Its the personal environment that we operate within . . . its my interactive field for understanding the "real" world.
Its my lense and medium.
(???)

I don't really understand the part about seeing it (or at least I don't know how to reply to that)

For healing . . . ? . . . what do you mean . . . "it"...?

(there can be a few more valid replies for this then there are people considering it . . . I Know Nothing!)
No, the "sphere" I refer to, often called the "sphere of sensation", is a label (in occult theory) for the immediate energy body of the magician . . . the aura. I tend to consider it (physically) the extent to which my etheric body extends. Its the "place" where my "self" buffers and interacts with the greater energetic world. . . and the transitioning mechinism between my energetic body and the greater astral.
Within it, my "sphere of influence", is my etheric body, my physical body and my inner astral. (I don't know how any "higher" energetic bodies co-operate in this model)
Its the personal environment that we operate within . . . its my interactive field for understanding the "real" world.
Its my lense and medium.
(???)

Sorry to keep asking questions but sometimes things arnt understood too well. You could say something round but is it an orange or tomatoe. I think I see things in a different way but then I dont really know anything myself.
Correct me if im wrong of course but when you say of the shpere that sort of sounds to me like the shpere I know of that encompases all bodies?
Although as I say I dont know myself, but then I see the gray energy around my body that extends only a centemeter as a body that hosts these other bodies that can exist anywhere across space and time. I've seen something that I think ive read too and that is that one day I was smoking a spliff and my mother walked into the garden, when I looked at her I saw a few inches away from the gray energy a different aura which had multiple colors, a few inches away from that I saw a 2D outline. So I guess to think that there are many parts of the aura that exist in other dimensions/planes. Not too sure what to think.

Besides that I'm not too sure what to think when it comes to the astral. I've been astral but here when I accidentally died before. I've been to the lower astral, but what are you refering as the greater astral?

Yes, these could all be what I would call the energy-bodies or "astral" body. I'm sure there are a number of energetic "bodies" for each of us . . . none really can be specifically related to "this" or "that" outside of our own relationship.
For ME . . . I call the energetic layer that extends just outside my physical (skin, hair, gas) etheric. Although it describes something in my lexicon . . . its just a word.
Beyond that, within that, and containing that . . . (for me), is the "sphere of sensation" or "sphere of influence" . . . its really just esoteric hyperbole for the phenomonal frame of reference or context of interaction between you (all your bodies) and the bigger world / greater context / macrocosm / reality.
My model . . . there is an astral environment WITHIN my set of bodys . . . and there is an astral environment outside my bodys in the greater context. That latter astral environ . . . in my lexicon, would be the Greater astral.
To me, the lower astral would be EASIEST to describe as part of the greater astral.
(I know . . . hence the easiest term . .)

Your questions are fine (though we may be wandering off-topic). I'm not sure I can really answer them, well enough.
Sometimes, even if we're talking about oranges and tomatoes . . . if its an esoteric discussion, the best we can get at is "its round" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Yes, these could all be what I would call the energy-bodies or "astral" body. I'm sure there are a number of energetic "bodies" for each of us . . . none really can be specifically related to "this" or "that" outside of our own relationship.
For ME . . . I call the energetic layer that extends just outside my physical (skin, hair, gas) etheric. Although it describes something in my lexicon . . . its just a word.
Beyond that, within that, and containing that . . . (for me), is the "sphere of sensation" or "sphere of influence" . . . its really just esoteric hyperbole for the phenomonal frame of reference or context of interaction between you (all your bodies) and the bigger world / greater context / macrocosm / reality.
My model . . . there is an astral environment WITHIN my set of bodys . . . and there is an astral environment outside my bodys in the greater context. That latter astral environ . . . in my lexicon, would be the Greater astral.
To me, the lower astral would be EASIEST to describe as part of the greater astral.
(I know . . . hence the easiest term . .)

Your questions are fine (though we may be wandering off-topic). I'm not sure I can really answer them, well enough.
Sometimes, even if we're talking about oranges and tomatoes . . . if its an esoteric discussion, the best we can get at is "its round" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I see what your saying and think it could be the same sphere or bubble! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Although ive heard of an energy egg too not too sure about that if its the same thing or not, could probably work higher up when refered to in a higherachy perspective.

Yes I have to agree that we have wondered off topic (wh00ps), although you say you can invoke energy for this, how would I go about doing so?
Besides that if anyone else is reading this topic it would be great to hear your point of view! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I was thinking more myself about using the astral eye, to visualize giving energy to something.

This post has been edited by Coffee: Oct 8 2006, 08:17 AM