The Watcher Bandar, Questions / Ask Here Experiances / Tell Here Options

Hello,

I am new to the Necronomicon and have been researching the tome for over three months. Since I am well-versed in Ceremonial Magick, I found the idea of the Watcher quite fascinating.

It is remarkable how the tome almost promises that this being will indeed show up after you invoke it--immediately after, that is. It says, "At this point the watcher WILL SURELY (emphasis added) come and WILL (emphasis added) stand outside the Gate or Circle until shuch time as he is given the lisence to depart etc" that is found on page 73 of the Simon Necronomicon.

It was also interesting to note that in some instances it will appear in the form of a "fierce dog" and that the presence of this being is to be feared. Since I have an understanding of the evocation of the spirits, one of the necessary components of a worthwhile evocation is making a connection with the spirit (in whatever way the magician sees fit). But in this case there really is no preparation at all. I mean, you call the Watcher and he appears or manifests after the magician makes the necessary preparations with the offerings etc.

My question is for those who have a deeper understanding of the Necronomicon. When you invoked the Watcher for the first time did he manifest slowly or show up immediately? In other words, did you have to call him up several times (as is the case with stubborn spirits) or did invoking him once do the trick? Is this an instance of magick where all one has to do is basically call forth the being and "beleive it to be there" (like is the case with archangelic invocations and calling forth the elements) or does the priest actually have to get it to physically manifest? In the case of archangelic invocations after some time their presence becomes very powerful, indeed. Does the Watcher manifest every time when invoked (is it a mechanic process)? Or does the Watcher need repeated conjurations or invocations to arrive? Is one reading of the invocation enough to get the Watcher to arrive or do you need to call it again and again to make sure "it's there physically?" Does the magician need an assurance of the presence of the Watcher or is just calling him and beleiving he is there sufficient enough? I mean, it's not necessarily an evocation. It's an invocation that can turn into an instance of an evocation. Fascinating! I would love to hear your thoughts and experiences.

I am still trying to understand the nature of these beings. Any help would be most appreciated.

Good day to you and yours,

Mr. Curi

Mr. Curi:
Unfortunately for me the Bandar has not manifested yet.
I attempted the initial Bandar invocation on the 6th (full moon) with a new bowl (steel chili cooking pot) and a new machete for a sword (inscribed with arra, agga, bandar sigils) and made the double circle on the ground with a new pocket knife (inscribed with innana's name). It is possible it failed since when I tried to stick the machete on the ground it would not stick (ground too hard) and had to lay it on the ground besides the bowl (also I called it around 10pm. Next time I'll try 3:am). I hope to have greater success in the future. I have not called Badar since.

Since then I have been calling onto Nannar and Arannuna with a different bowl every night (cant do it in the morning as I am rushed for work), asking for success on my opening the gate of Nannar on the next full moon and for calling the Watcher. Unfortunately I tried to keep the moon 'pure' but failed a few das ago (Its not as easy as you might think). I hope it doesnt jinx the whole thing.

Regarding Bandar I found what appear to be allusions to in some books, which the rest of the group might be interested.

In R. C. Thompsons book 'Devils and Evil Spririts of Babylonia' tablets are provided, sometimes bilingual in Sumerian and Akkadian. here is common phrase repeated in many incantations: (Note Sh is an S with a chevron on top)

UTUG-ShI-GA ALAD-ShiGA DA-MU -KAN-GUB

"May a kindly Spirit, a kindly guardian, stand at my side"

from pg 11"

UTUG-Shi-GA ID-ZA-DA-MU MU-UN-DA-AN-GIN-NA
ALAD-Shi-GA ID-GU-BU-MU MU-UN-DA-AN-GIN-NA

"A kindly Guardian marcheth on my right, a kindly spirit marcheth on my left" (I think the guardian/spirit are reversed)

So it seems that when called, two beings are called, a spirit and the Guardian
The good or kindly spirit is UTUG-Shi-GA and the good or kindly guardian is ALAD-Shi-GA
And and evil spirit is UTUG-HUL, so HUL simply means evil.

Another interesting reference is the list of magic books needed for the instruction of an Assyran Mage.
TintirBabylon
At the endo of the list of incantations the initiate has to master the tablet mentions:

41. Upon the one who is vigorous, wise, and penetrating to Great Knowledge, the Two Gods, the Lords (Ea and Marduk), will confer Vast Understanding;
42. Unto this one these Gods will grant a Guardian Angel, whose name will be pronounced unto the Most Distant Times.
43. Copied and collated with a most ancient copy. A tablet belonging to Kisir-dNabu, son of dŠamaš-ibni, magician of the Ešara.

So it is pretty clear that the ancient sumerian/akkadian/assirian mages after proper instruction received a 'kindly guardian' to watch over them. Who else could it be but Bandar?

1) When calling the Bandar has any one felt the presence of a 'kindly spirit' in addition to the Bandar? Or it might be just poetic license and only a description of Bandar as a spirit?

2) Does anyone know the owner of the tintir babylon site, BelAmurru? I've tried to contact him but his email link is dead. He seems to have a lot of really cool information in his site.

Traveller

Greetings Traveller,

Your research of the Sumerian language is quite enlightening. Sacrifice often to the Bandar. It may take some time before he is powerful enough that you can sense him well. It would also help to try and develop your astral sense. I have no doubt that your Bandar is present. Keep sacrificing to him and he will become more visible in the shadow.

Zi Dingir Bandar Kanpa!

Greetings Traveller,

Your research of the Sumerian language is quite enlightening. Sacrifice often to the Bandar. It may take some time before he is powerful enough that you can sense him well. It would also help to try and develop your astral sense. I have no doubt that your Bandar is present. Keep sacrificing to him and he will become more visible in the shadow.

Zi Dingir Bandar Kanpa!

Brother Smasher,

Can you recommend us a technic we can use to develop our astral senses or astral project? When I call or offer sacrifices to my Bandar I know he is present because I feel him or he let me know where he is by making noises. I know that is him making noises because where the noises are coming from. Ex. I place his bowl in different places around the house and the noises always coming from that direction or I have seen shadows from the area I placed the his bowl. But I haven't seen him physically yet or have cross to the astral to meet with him thing that I really want to experience.

Greetings Ses Agazi Ganbar,

Please view my class lesson here. http://www.sacred-magick.org/index.php?s=&...indpost&p=16438

I still have to write a couple more lessons. This is a technique that I have sucessfully taught to many gate walkers.

Zi Dingir Ninib Kanpa!