Superstition Nonsense, need some help Options

As long as I have been conscience of my of being, I have always heard that the Necronomicon was, well evil, satanistic material. ANd I am sure that the people who stated that are just ignorant, superstitious fanatics. Recently I have been really doing ceremonial, but the necronomicon looks interesting. I know I am just ignorant in this field but why do people say that this book is just no good? IN these forums, I have read that many people find this book useful, but if I use it am I going to end up going nuts or anything like that.

Thanks,

Mike M.

ps. Dont be offended, anyone who reads this, for any reason.

My reading about the banishing is that the typical banishing rites don't work, not that there are no banishings that work. I don't mean to offend, but there are a lot of mealy-mouthed "systems" out there, that do not take the spirit realm very seriously, and are kind of the "Cosmo" version of magick/ritual. I have no doubt that such methods won't work on Nec entities. Nec entities (indeed, the deities and entities of MOST ancient religions) are to be taken FAR more seriously that the practitioners of "smorgasbord" magick do. indeed, the gods were much feared (as in both fear and reverence) by the worshippers of their time. Nec deities/entities are old, and darn well expect to be respected, and if you try to deal with them on the cutesy hocus-pocus level that you find so many "fashionable' practitioners seem to be at, you'll be seen as a fool, and they'll wipe the spirit world with you.

Smasher666 mentioned in another thread that he has met Ereshkigal and Nergal in his travels and they were quite nice to him. No doubt that he approached them with respect, not some "I command you to give me an 'A' on my philosophy exam' nonsense. The key to contact, and when necessary, banishing of entities seems to not just be confidence in oneself, but also to taking the system, and indeed the entities themselves, seriously..

Hope that wasn't too confused.

Greetings Dark Goddess,

I totally agree the Ceremonial style evocations and banishings are foolish with the Necronomicon. I believe that any given system should be worked completely within that systems guidelines. Borrowing from here or there is border line Chaos magick and from my experiments years ago seemed only to piss off the Necronomicon forces. Calling one of the 50 names within a triangle and demanding in the names of God that he / she does your bidding is a recipe for disaster.

I also agree about respecting the spirits. No matter what diety or spirit is invoked there must be sacrifice. Before you do anything with the Necronomicon always conjure the fire god to light the fire. Then summon Bandar and perform the Agga mass ssaratu sacrifice. Now that we have a nice sacrifice going any spirits we call will be appeased.

I never bother to banish any of the 50 names nor do I bother with any banishing after evocation. I feed my Bandar the Agga Mass Ssaratu every night and instruct him to eat any demon or Malfick that comes within my home. After all this is one of the things Bandar is meant for.

Also I never banish Bandar. The mad arab hints that if you do not the Bandar will become so strong that you will not be able to control him. However Bandar is my friend and he is a very angelic type spirit. I do not wish to completely control him. He has permision to do anything he wants to do or go anywhere he wants to go so long as he does not violate the covenant. SOmething which he would never do anyways.

Also I never banish Bandar. The mad arab hints that if you do not the Bandar will become so strong that you will not be able to control him. However Bandar is my friend and he is a very angelic type spirit. I do not wish to completely control him. He has permision to do anything he wants to do or go anywhere he wants to go so long as he does not violate the covenant. SOmething which he would never do anyways.

I think the key with the Mad Arab's testimony is that he seems to be coming from a magickian's point of view, rather than a priest's. He's trying to control the watcher, whereas you are making a covenant with him, you give him something he wants/likes (the sacrifice) in return for your protection, other than that, you let him do what he wants, rather than try and control him like a puppet. There's that respect, and that goes a long way.

I think the key with the Mad Arab's testimony is that he seems to be coming from a magickian's point of view, rather than a priest's. He's trying to control the watcher, whereas you are making a covenant with him, you give him something he wants/likes (the sacrifice) in return for your protection, other than that, you let him do what he wants, rather than try and control him like a puppet. There's that respect, and that goes a long way.

Very well said. I have always approached the Necronomicon Deities as a priestess, never as a magician. I feel that the Necronomicon works nicely as a "bible" for a personal relationship with one or more of the Gods (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)