Truth Seeking, what is life, what is humanity, what is you Options

as the topic suggests.

Lately i am missing more occult discussions on these forums. altough i like talking about vegetarianism and drugs, i want to talk more about the nature of my beliefs and study.
namely the search for pure untainted truth. and the gathering of as much power as i can contain.
Those are my goals, towards enlightenment.

I was wondering how others view their search for whatever they are searching for.
perhaps some have found some form of truth they are content with, i wish to hear about these opinions in a respectable way.
no bashing others ideas, just sharing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/baby.gif)

I myself belief in non-existance. however i believe this truth has to be experienced in an enlightening experience, or more experiences.
at the moment i have experienced this at times. but i seem to keep forgetting it in the long run, and their seems to be a need for constant experiencing this non-existance. thus to live fully in this awarenes. This is hard to do, but rewarding as it makes life a peacefull experiences.

No-mind, the stopping of mind chatter is the primary practise of this belief, toghether with meditation.

this i try to combine with ceremonial magick, trying to get a taste and feeling of magickal essense and energys. i have found they have a distinct taste when working with them over the years. enlarging this taste and connection is one of my goals.

the increase in magickal potence gives me more control over things in life trough magick. this enables me to worry less about things not nesesary for the first goal of no mind. This way i can use magick to steer my life where i want it with little effort, so that i can practise no-mind and non-existance in an undisturbed way.

However, i have many questions still and many ways to go.

I hope this will get a possible discussion started, perhaps we can enlighten each other on various ways.
i would really like to learn more about the magickal side, sinse i consider myself still a child in learning at that side. The consepts of the spiritual side are easier.

so lets get started, anyone wanna share their core beliefs, mentalities conserning their practise. not really the tools of the trade, but really what goes on in the head while doing them. feelings tastes sensations that happen during practise.

my magick practise tastes verry purple. the nature of these energies tastes not evil or good, its a strange taste. a feeling of strength and energy without a connection to good or evil, a purple goo swirling around me. this is not something i visualise, its not important to me how you visualise your magick. its the feedback you get. no matter how i visualise my magick acts, it always tastes like this to me, wich is something i think more true than my visualisations.

I believe that by discussing these tactile connections we can learn from each other how to closer connect to these energies. in truth and not merely visualisation techniques. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

lets begin...

those are some wise words bb3.
I remember that i wrote something like that down too a while ago, you helped me remember that.

It was my idea at that time that by silencing the lower mortal mind, the true self has a chance to speak. This way one is able to follow the true mind, the higher self.
I do not know if the silencing is nesecary and this interests me alot.
I was of the assumption that it was fase based, but i may have been wrong.

my idea was to first silence the mind, so that it becomes like a pool of water with clear surface.
The lower mind being the water of the lake, and the true mind being the rocks and earth that make up the bottom of the lake.
Thus by silencing, subduing the water, it becomes clear and the bottom becomes visible.
This i thought to be the case with the mind, by silencing the thoughts the deeper thoughts become more visible.

But you are right i think. If one only silences the mind, then there is nothing. there must be room for something to focus on.
The water of the lake may become calm, but if you are looking at the sky at that time, the bottom still is not visible. So one must focus at the bottom.

I'm not sure yet, i'm still thinking about it as i seem to be a bit noisy and confused these days and i'm borrowing from experiences i had in the past this time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

anyways, good post, good wisdom, thanks bb3 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

those are some wise words bb3.
I remember that i wrote something like that down too a while ago, you helped me remember that.

It was my idea at that time that by silencing the lower mortal mind, the true self has a chance to speak. This way one is able to follow the true mind, the higher self.
I do not know if the silencing is nesecary and this interests me alot.
I was of the assumption that it was fase based, but i may have been wrong.

I think I may be able to shed some further clarification upon this idea. Remember that the true mind/self is always speaking, ie expressing itself. Hence, we are emotional beings and people whose life is not always as happy as it could/shoud be because the true mind/self is expressing itself without/contrary etc to our knowledge.
Though I'm sure you're well aware of this let me also elaborate for any newbies reading that it isn't a case of 'following' the true self. It's much better to say that we are 'led' by the true mind. Clearly, it would be making a difficult task more difficult if we were to attempt to scramble after the divine's every movement.

my idea was to first silence the mind, so that it becomes like a pool of water with clear surface.
The lower mind being the water of the lake, and the true mind being the rocks and earth that make up the bottom of the lake.
Thus by silencing, subduing the water, it becomes clear and the bottom becomes visible.
This i thought to be the case with the mind, by silencing the thoughts the deeper thoughts become more visible.

But you are right i think. If one only silences the mind, then there is nothing. there must be room for something to focus on.
The water of the lake may become calm, but if you are looking at the sky at that time, the bottom still is not visible. So one must focus at the bottom.

I'm not sure yet, i'm still thinking about it as i seem to be a bit noisy and confused these days and i'm borrowing from experiences i had in the past this time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

anyways, good post, good wisdom, thanks bb3 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

In this case I think you need to step back and look at it from the opposite side of things. What if, by learning to listen to yourself, really listen until you reached greater and greater depths and then found yourself listening to the silence to which you sought. Indeed, it may be that both ways to lead to the same silence; however, it's always better to be able to look at things from many different perspectives.

I'll attempt to use your metaphor now: the flow of our true thoughts might be akin to the underground stream that rises up through the earch and the rocks to ensure our pool of water never drys up. By following the stream we reach the pool, already calm and perfect in every way.

All in all silencing the mind may very well be the greatest aid that an occultist have in his arsenal, but if silence is all that you can muster many lesser lights will rise to greater heights because of their versatility.