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blasphemy2000
post Oct 27 2006, 03:28 PM
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Ok, first of all. I would like to start this thread to clear up some misconceptions abour daemons (demons). A) they are not ugly, most actually are VERY beautiful creatures. B) They do NOT and nor have they EVER "fell from grace". THat is a christian concept and has no merit in demonolatry. There are heirarchies just like angels, if you believe in those sort of things. But instead of using Seraphim, Thrones, Virtues, etc...they use crown prince, duke, earl, etc... When summoning a DEMON, do NOT try to control or command it. Using triangles, circles, names of "god" or whatever is VERY disrespectful and will end in disaster, I assure you of it. The Goetia (L.K.O.S) is a jewish-christian book. The demons are no longer bound and they are free. Therefore, the goetia is pointless, while some demonolators still use it in reference to hell's heirarchy. Most have adopted Dukante's.

Also, when evoking a demon, "invoking" is considered rude...do NOT treat the sigil incorrectly. Properly burn it in a sacrificial fire, or keep it for further use. You may also bury it. Thank the demon for helping you and then dismiss it, it will usually require a sacrifice. (No, not baby flesh, or other stereotypical stuff...) but a drop of blood will do, since they require life force, blood has a good bit in it to sustain them. But it isnt the only way, be creative *smirk* I guess that is all for now. Please be careful and dont summon "just for fun or kicks"

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post Oct 27 2006, 05:33 PM
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Greetings Blasphemy2000!
Demons, daemons, daimons, etc. You are wielding a very generalized stick. I've tried to actually nail down the origin of the word, demonaltry, and have come up with alot of vagueries, most of which have their roots in Christian ecclesiastical rede. Not particularily satisfying.
There are malevolent beings that can be ascribed to the very loose term of 'demon' and there are those entities which can be termed 'daemons' who are not malevolent. It has been the unfortunate happenstance that certain faiths look upon various spiritual (and otherwise) beings as Demonic. In accordance with most of the worlds major religons the term 'demon' denotes something bad or evil (a rather subjective term). Already you are facing a conflicting view. Wouldn't it be easier to just call it something else? Newage delights in this and you'd find yourself amidst throngs of avid learners...but no...we must perpetuate a stereotype! To be a Demonaltrer is not necessarily to be a 'Satanist'. I know quite a few 'Satanists'...they mostly idolize aberant lifestyles and most worship the distaff side of the Christian ethos. Call them 'rebels'. Most are not evil though they love to ape the trappings of what the local religon considers evil. It all balances out.
You have become, of late, the poster boy for Demonaltry. A Champion of the Cause! I applaud your zeal!
We all know that the roots of the Goetia are murky with innuendo placed by a variety of disparate priests of the Invogue God! Baal actually translates into 'Boss' and Hauros/Flauros could very well be a hawk of Egyptian origin. But please, don't even try to 'fluff' up Pazuzu or any number of other entities in the name of righteousness. Sometimes the entity is just plain MEAN! Granted, the interactions of humans with non-humans can have some very unintentional deleterious effect! Even elementals can be hazardous to your health! We must use caution and knowledge to understand these beings! Some should never try evocation at all (IMHO).
You have made a number of incorrect assumptions in your zealous posts...one of which I hope to end. That is the one regarding the Triangle of the Art. The 'holy' names are an addition from a later time. It is the SHAPE which is of importance! It represents MANIFESTATION! PERIOD. Well....that is the very simplified definition!
I am very interested in researching 'Demonaltry' and would be very grateful if you can point me toward some of your source material? It wasn't until I became a Mod here that I ever heard of the word! I hope that the material dates back before the seventies and Lavey as this was one of the first Newage regurgitations and it's getting mighty deep in here! Thanks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/horse.gif)


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blasphemy2000   Introduction To Demons   Oct 27 2006, 03:28 PM
DeathStalker   He's right about what he's saying, Demons ...   Oct 27 2006, 09:44 PM
bym   Thanks! *grin* I've been around the block ...   Oct 27 2006, 11:16 PM
palindroem   Sorry Bym . . no source material here (yet) Actu...   Oct 28 2006, 05:56 AM
bym   Palindroem, I don't think that I could have sa...   Oct 28 2006, 07:09 AM
Radiant Star   I doubt I am even 'qualified' enough to be...   Oct 28 2006, 10:31 AM
palindroem   Bym, I get the same kind of impression. The great...   Oct 28 2006, 02:32 PM
Radiant Star   I find that interesting what you say Palindroem. ...   Oct 28 2006, 02:43 PM
Shabatai   so what would be the difference between lets say g...   Oct 29 2006, 12:17 AM
palindroem   Well, even "like" gods may be alot of ...   Oct 29 2006, 06:21 AM
Acherusia   Within the practice of Demonolatry there are many ...   Nov 17 2007, 12:03 PM
Acid09   The ancient greeks believed daimons (there equavil...   Nov 20 2007, 06:49 PM
Acherusia   Oh that is quit some generalising. Id like to take...   Nov 21 2007, 03:31 AM
Acid09   You are correct to point out that the meaning of ...   Nov 23 2007, 07:03 PM
Acherusia   I overall agree with your posting about the concep...   Nov 24 2007, 06:55 AM
azareth   Its true,you dont have to be an evil person to wor...   Apr 29 2009, 09:01 PM
Ankhhape   My understanding is that the word Daimon is the or...   Apr 29 2009, 09:43 PM

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