Twin / Doubling Up Options

For the past few months, I have been trying to repeat certain things which have happened to me in obe. A few times, I have combined forms (accidentally) of myself and been surprised by the outcome. Although I try each night to accomplish this, I have had only one success. It was in lucid dreaming, however. The clarity was magnificent, but I was trying for it to be in obe. It's like ordering a fine wine and getting served grape juice. Sweet, but lacking in potency. I'm calling it a success, perhaps, because I don't want to feel like a complete arse.

Anyway, if anyone has tips or even casual advice, I would appreciate it. I should mention that this is taking up most of my resources and that my usual obe work and dreaming has fallen under. In fact, the last time I was even semi-lucid was a few days ago and that amounted to little more than watching a tall blonde man in a light green suit watching me from afar. This is very far from how good it can be and it worries me. My opinions are that I'm trying too hard, that it's time to just give up, that I need to step back and just let it come on its own, or that I'm afraid of it working.

This post has been edited by Chahel: Apr 6 2005, 11:42 PM

(1) Follow your modle that taught you how to be clarivoyant then find where semi-lucidity is at. That point in your teaching is where you should go.

(2)As far as OBE and combining. I would seriously make sure you know with what/whom you are combining with.

(3)Combining, if I am correct about what chahel means, is the practice of assuming an archetypal form (the self(ves) can fit this description) to gain its abilites for a period of time, regardless if its a part of a lucid dream, ritual or obe (though obe is probably the most intense).

(4)Perhaps Chahel should attempt to combine with the archetypal chahel, this is an angelic name correct?

(5)Another thing to point out is that if you have a friend or partner willing and experinced enough to try you can learn from each other. Just make sure its somebody you don't care knows your secrets, even if they forget them its still in their minds and it can come back to haunt you.

Acid09 - I've divided certain things from your post in order to address them correctly. I still haven't gotten the hang of quoting, on this site.

(1) I'm not entirely sure what you mean by these two statements. If you can clarify, I would appreciate it.

(2) The words used in the initial post were confusing. I've clarified what I wrote, hopefully, in the above post to Ashnook. I will be combining two of me.

(3) Yes, you got it. It is the selves. The lucid dream was much less intense than when it happened in obe.

(4) I suppose it does qualify as an archetype. Body 2 was the regular vehicle for obe, Body 3 seems to be an advanced version. The combination of the two, though, is utterly dynamic. I don't know how to answer if Chahel is an angelic name or not. It is not in the proper language, but its definition could be seen as being angelic. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/angel.gif)

(5) Unfortunately, I don't have a counter-part, at this time. I'll keep that in mind if I find myself in the position of sharing.

Peace to you too!

This post has been edited by Chahel: Apr 10 2005, 11:04 PM