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post Oct 30 2006, 05:08 PM
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I've been wondering what to explain to myself really. When we are born we know nothing about using the mind, as we grow older we visualize certain things. It's all there when we need it, we just have to want to do so. Although thats the basic stuff really. For example if anyone else see's this stuff or not I have no idea, asked a friend and mother and they dont seem to do so, but it's what I would call the spiritual, scientists probably think of it as dark matter, it's the gray bitty stuff that reminds me of dust. I know it's different for everyone but those who are born spiritually aware would have it there. Saying that though, if anyone has been to the etheric then they would also see this other stuff almost twinkling in the sunlight, colord blue white and yellow. It's down to perception of reality, most people only have the basics, what you see when you remember, has anyone else noticed a flat color border around their memory window?

What do you see though and how would you go about visualising something in that space / with it?

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post Oct 30 2006, 06:29 PM
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No offense man, but its obvious english isn't your first language. If it is then you must type really fast and not look at what you typed before posting. I'm having some real difficulty following your logic.
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When we are born we know nothing about using the mind, as we grow older we visualize certain things. It's all there when we need it, we just have to want to do so.

So are you saying we learn to visualize things as we grow up? And that as we learn to visualize we learn to get what we want through visualization?
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Although thats the basic stuff really. For example if anyone else see's this stuff or not I have no idea, asked a friend and mother and they dont seem to do so, but it's what I would call the spiritual, scientists probably think of it as dark matter, it's the gray bitty stuff that reminds me of dust.

Stuff, spiritual? So here you are saying you see something, while visualizing and since you don't know what it is you call it "spiritual"?
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Saying that though, if anyone has been to the etheric then they would also see this other stuff almost twinkling in the sunlight, colord blue white and yellow. It's down to perception of reality, most people only have the basics, what you see when you remember, has anyone else noticed a flat color border around their memory window?

Memory window? What is a memory window? If I know what you mean by that then I might be able to tell if I've seen any color around it.
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What do you see though and how would you go about visualising something in that space / with it?

Assuming the question is what does one see while practicing a visualization ritual, I'd have to say it depends on my state of my. In dreams I see things as though I were under water. The more lucid I am the more solid the reality of my dreams is. What I visualize depends entirely on my depth of awareness and level of trance.


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post Nov 1 2006, 06:07 AM
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QUOTE(Acid09 @ Oct 31 2006, 12:29 AM) *
No offense man, but its obvious english isn't your first language. If it is then you must type really fast and not look at what you typed before posting. I'm having some real difficulty following your logic.

So are you saying we learn to visualize things as we grow up? And that as we learn to visualize we learn to get what we want through visualization?

Stuff, spiritual? So here you are saying you see something, while visualizing and since you don't know what it is you call it "spiritual"?

Memory window? What is a memory window? If I know what you mean by that then I might be able to tell if I've seen any color around it.

Assuming the question is what does one see while practicing a visualization ritual, I'd have to say it depends on my state of my. In dreams I see things as though I were under water. The more lucid I am the more solid the reality of my dreams is. What I visualize depends entirely on my depth of awareness and level of trance.


If you bother to read it again then it is in plain english and yes it does make sense. The only problem I'm understanding is typo's.
What I'm saying is first of all is, have you heard the term...

Perception of ones own reality

That should be a yes really seeing as just about everyone I have come across has done so. From this meaning should come a point of view on life that describes the fact that one person can see blue, whilst the other see's red. The sky is pink and blue to one person but blue and indigo to another. I see the etheric as fairy dust, someone else doesn't see it at all.

Second of all, that part about growing up using the mind and never really thinking about anything more to do with it. I guess as a baby we don't know what to do to stimulate the mind as we don't have any knowledge on the subject. So it just does as we want when we need to do so...

The basics

We remember and think in a standard place in or around the head, which is what everyone can do. Saying that though, most people can visualise other imagery and place it anywhere around them they want to, so if you wanted to visualize a new garden where the old one is then you could but this would be something more difficult. However things like visualizing astrally or spiritually are more difficult especially spiritually.

Other

Blue gass. The sky is blue the sea is blue/green and somewhere in between is this blue gass. Standard the air is nothing, meaning there is nothing that you can see in the space where the air is. Trips to other planes give us what we see thats extra, unless it's picked up on through some other means. Look around at the reflection (as there is one on verythig) and notice how there is a blue tint, here there and everywhere giving you now blue gass in the air. Hopefully anyway.

Not just perception of one's own reality

Other things that are interesting to notice are things like, when you go to draw a picture and you can faintly see what it is you want to draw, you can then play with this picture if you have the right control over it. Or how there is a border around every momory window that appears.

Anything will do that you can notice.

Thanks.

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