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post Nov 1 2006, 12:22 AM
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What are your opinions on it? Does the drug induced state help/hinder your grasp on magick, or both? I've thought about if it would alter your ability to grasp energy, yet at the same time, could it help you become more aware of the surroundings, or your self-conscious? So what are the opinions, or facts on this subject?


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post Nov 1 2006, 10:19 AM
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i have experimented with drugs and magick.
Its tricky buisiness.

In one end, drugs can induce or enhance magickal experiences.
On the other end, drugs can bring you furhter away from what you seek. Especially after they stop working.
Marihuana for instance can bring me a zen like state when i'm on it, however, if i use to much in a short time i have noticed that when sober i tend to be farther from this zen
state than normal. This is something i am still experiencing with, so i'm not sure if it is really so or just due to certain circumstances.

Psychedelics are another thing. I took hawaian baby woodrose seeds, and i took some mushrooms.
Both trips where deeply spiritual and rewarding. But i am not certain at all if the spiritual side stays with you after the trip.
I did not notice any important changes in my life after these trips, the few days after where spiritual days in a good state of mind, but it just went away.

Even more, it seems that by using drugs you get to see things you shouldn't see yet.
The danger exists, in after achieving a zen like state on psychedelics or marihuana, you remember what that felt like. And thus your current practise of zen or enlightenment or whatever you perform magick for, gets oriented to achieving that state of mind again. By doing this you will torture yourself by constantly hanging this goal before you. You will also never achieve the goal this way, becouse you stop going step by step towards the end, you try to reach the end without the path. And this is impossible.


In the end it is your choice, i am not against it either. I will continue to use these drugs for various magickal purposes.
However, be aware of the dangers. Do not let the drug use you. And do not attach any value to these drugs. Do not worship the drug.


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Theft   Use Of Drugs For Magickal Purposes   Nov 1 2006, 12:22 AM
Theft   Erowid is one of my favorite sites to visit becaus...   Nov 1 2006, 11:27 AM
Acid09   The main problem with drugs is that they act like ...   Nov 1 2006, 02:03 PM
Theft   I constantly refer back to erowid.com for medical ...   Nov 1 2006, 02:26 PM
Acid09   Sorry I just can't possibly consider dxm a ...   Nov 1 2006, 06:16 PM
Theft   I used it from an over-the-counter medicine and es...   Nov 1 2006, 07:08 PM
extinctionspasm   Hereisthe short answer from a modern day Hunter S ...   Nov 1 2006, 09:41 PM
kairos   If you know anything about the Qabalah you will kn...   Nov 3 2006, 01:27 PM
norrinradd   Hereisthe short answer from a modern day Hunter S ...   Oct 30 2007, 01:32 AM
wizardgryphon   i agree even though im using marijauna now for dee...   Oct 30 2007, 02:52 PM
extinctionspasm   There is so much to this topic, and without intend...   Nov 3 2006, 11:52 PM
sithhunter   There are initiations that use drugs, and I think ...   Nov 6 2006, 12:44 AM
CosmicInferno   forgive me if i go through digging up a few retire...   Sep 20 2007, 08:25 PM
Samas   forgive me if i go through digging up a few retire...   Sep 21 2007, 02:22 AM
Goibniu   Personally I wouldn't use drugs for magical pu...   Sep 21 2007, 05:09 PM
paxx   Drugs…and their use in Magick. Is a very interesti...   Oct 26 2007, 06:16 PM
wizardgryphon   if you mean like the use of peyote, mooshrooms, an...   Oct 28 2007, 03:17 PM
paxx   But how is one really supposed to use them for the...   Oct 28 2007, 08:38 PM
wizardgryphon   But how is one really supposed to use them for the...   Oct 28 2007, 09:39 PM
Krell   All good advice I think. There seems to be the im...   Jun 27 2008, 09:04 AM
Imperial Arts   Though there are millions of people who will attes...   Jun 27 2008, 12:12 PM
shamanwizard   Though there are millions of people who will attes...   Jun 27 2008, 09:49 PM
Imperial Arts   Probably the worst drugs available these days are ...   Jun 29 2008, 11:31 PM
shamanwizard   Probably the worst drugs available these days are ...   Jun 30 2008, 03:24 PM
Acid09   I agree with both of you. There are legitimate spi...   Jun 29 2008, 06:25 PM
Acid09   What gets to me are all those "male enhance...   Jun 30 2008, 06:14 PM
Jenfucius   What are your opinions on it? Does the drug induc...   Nov 12 2008, 05:21 PM

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